The Numbers

He is right. Age is the factor even Jenna Bush is not keen to vote for McCain!

Don't you think he may want to focus on the difference between age because that is an issue where he doesn't have to do like Hillary (an ivy league, multi-millionaire woman who has not had to drive herself for 30 years and doesn't realize that many working class people can't figure out there budgets now nevermind if you throw in a stipend with a tax cut)...

Barack would rather now spin who he is (you know the guy who fought for people who lost their jobs from factory closings instead of taking a high powered attorney job...but that has been spun into an elitist)...

I think he wants to focus on demographics that are not about "acting" don't you think.

His policies speak to the older generations more easily without playing the game...they speak to blue collar too if they could get through the whole attack spin...

There IS a big difference between the older and younger vote just as there is a difference in economic level but one you are more likely to play old politics and acting... one you just need to make them feel more comfortable with something new...not the brand that for good or bad they are comfortable with....and that is what I think he wants to focus on in the overall picture don't you.

That dems have grown complacent with the Cllintons as their leaders of the party...but yet the Clintons and the bush's are the ones who created this car that's driving us to national destruction.

The age claim is what's known as bait and switch.

It's the white working class he's having trouble with.

Don't you think he may want to focus on the difference between age because that is an issue where he doesn't have to do like Hillary (an ivy league, multi-millionaire woman who has not had to drive herself for 30 years and doesn't realize that many working class people can't figure out there budgets now never mind if you throw in a stipend with a tax cut) playing like she is something she is not...

Barack would rather not spin who he is (you know the guy who fought for people who lost their jobs from factory closings instead of taking a high powered attorney job...but that has been spun into an elitist)...

I think he wants to focus on demographics that are not about "acting" don't you think.

His policies speak to the older generations more easily without playing the game...they speak to blue collar too if they could get through the whole attack spin...

There IS a big difference between the older and younger vote just as there is a difference in economic level but one you are more likely to play old politics and acting... one you just need to make them feel more comfortable with something new...not the brand that for good or bad they are comfortable with....and that is what I think he wants to focus on in the overall picture don't you.

That dems have grown complacent with the Cllintons as their leaders of the party...but yet the Clintons and the bush's are the ones who created this car that's driving us to national destruction.

It's not age.
It's not racism.
It's not sexism

It's the issues and the candidates willingness to address those issues.

That's why Hillary is souring.

All that's left is for Obama to sling more mud!

I don't think white seniors like change. They know Hillary and don't want to think about learning anything about Obama, which is sad in itself. As we all can see, those who have an education have research and chose Obama over Hillary because they know she cannot beat McCain and she is NOT a peacmaker.S he is a argumentative person and has a no compromise attitude. Look what she did to health care in the Clinton years. Unfortunately, I truly believe that with the Clintons negative advertizing and no support from the working class, our best hope to pull this country up, will be gone. Hillary will be handed the nom. this summer and we will have McCain ( Bush) for 4 more years. She cannot beat him. If you think Obama has a "closet" full of questions, wait until they opne Hillarys...

The obvious fact is that Obama is simply
a weaker candidate than Clinton or McCain...

Obama is 1/2 white & I doubt he hates himself. most of the hate comes from the Griffin family

The older voters are very loyal to Sen Clinton. That's true because they had a very good harvest when Clinton was the president.
The young voters are also very loyal to him even they don't know about his issues .
They don't have problems with health and economy issues yet, they are too young.

I am 31 and i would with 4 other women in their 50's and 60's. They are for Hillary. They say he is too young.

I think the real swing vote is the Catholic vote.

If Obama cannot capture more of the Catholic vote, he will lose.

Hillary Clinton is now getting 68% of the catholic vote nationwide. Obama is only getting 16%,

Also, in the general election, Hillary Supporters (28%) said if Obama is the democratic candidate they will vote for McCain. Aslo 16% of Hillary Supporters said they would not vote. Yet, 68% of Obama supporters said that if Hillary was the democratic candidate in the primary, they would vote for Obama.

It looks like if Obama is nominated, he will probably lose, because again, the Catholic voters and the Hillary supporters will go to McCain.

Please wake up democrates and Superdelegates, give your support to HIllary. She is the only one whom will get us to the Whitehouse.

The terrible negative Republican ads running now in North Carolina against Obama are horrific. Yet, they are true about him, and will be playing all the way to the primary and beyond.

Of coirse, they are the one who saw the prosperous time in America during the Clinton years. The younger genrations like the emotions and joining the fraternity of Obama just for the sake of the hung of it. They don't think anymore. They want to join the wagon just for the sake of joining it.

Also, don't get fooled if Obama wins North Carolina, just in case, since African American are solid to Obama (9 to 1, shame on them, obviously racial) not like white americans who thinks and are fair.

Richardson cannot be trusted and a traitor. Don't vote for him when runs for a Senator. He belongs to Wright, Rezco and Ayer who join any rgoup or fraternity where he will benefit and not the Americans.

Obama’s motto and theme should be Pay per Vote. Obama overspent in Pennsylvannia and still came out the loser.

Look at the facts as to how strong Hillary is:

Obama lost in Pennsylvannia in spite of endorsement by a Senator and overspending in ads, 5 to 1.

Obama lost in Texas and Ohio even overspending in ads and manipulating info in Ohio.

Obama lost in California even though Oprah, Maria Shriver, and Katherine Kennedy endorsed him.

Obama lost Massachusetts even though Kennedy and John Kerry endorsed him.

Hillary won the big states and has more electoral college votes to date than Obama that is crucial in November.

Obama lost the big states even though the media is most of the time unfair with Hillary and always positive to Obama.

Wake up superdelegates! You will make the right choice if you pick Hillary.

Obama mocked the Pennsylvannians and the entire nation, which is so irresponsible and very degrading to all Americans. He is just like Wright who mocked the Americans and like Rezco and Ayers who we can’t trust.

Wake up superdelegates!

Women in their 50's and 60's want to see a woman elected president in their lifetimes. It's pure vanity. They will vote for Bill Clinton's wife. Their husbands will stay home.

To correct my above post: I ment to say that 685 of the Obama supporters said they would vote for Hillary, if Hillary was the democratic nominee. Yet, Hillary supporters said, if Obama was the democratic nominee, they would switch parties (28%) and vote for McCain, and 16% of the hillary supporters would not vote at all.

J Robinson that is exactly what the women said that I work with. That they are so excited to vote for women. Britney Spears could be running and i swear they would still vote.

I ment above 68%

Mary that makes me think those who would not support Obama if he gets the nomination are not true democrats. I voted for Obama but IF Hillary would gtet the nom i would vote for her. To do otherwise would allow a Republican back in.

Obama will not win the nomination. Superdelegates are on pins and needles now with Obama not able to win the big states, even with his 5 to 1 spending on ads and campaigning stratagies.

Why is everyone talking about race when it comes to who the white population is voting for when the fact is that the majority of the black population is voting for Sen. Obama.
Does anyone really believe that considering the canditates for this election the black population after years of voting for a white man will actually vote for a WHITE WOMAN no matter what her credentials are.
Racism has always been is a two way street.

I have to believe that part of Obama's problem is his race. Unfortunately, our country still has a problem with the black people. Also, there is this misconception that he is a Muslim; and there are people who refuse to believe otherwise. People latch on to negative ideas much quicker and for much longer than positive ideas. I wish people would rise above the prejudices and hate and see a person for who he or she might really be.

All 3 candidates have problems with different groups of voters.

Obama can win back the senior vote more easily than Hillary or McCain could win over African American or young voters!

i am afraid it is bnot age problem.
It is his heart.why he Obama sadi""his grandmother is a typical white pwerson, a racist. he hurt the pwople's heart.

I'm tired of people not reading the ed stats correctly -- yes, Clinton does dramatically better than Obama among those that don't have college ed. Among college educated, they're about evenly split -- Obama does better w/the under 45 college crowd, HRC does better with 45+.

The truth isn't that Hill's supporters aren't educated -- it's that she draws strong support from both the college grad group and the 'no college' group ... Obama's strength is only with the college ed.

Mathematically, Hillary has already lost. You can't count Florida and Michigan, those states knew the rules, they broke them, their votes will not be counted. The fact of the matter is that if Hillary is made the Dem-Nom the only way she can be now...by having Superdelegates turn against the will of the people...she will lose a huge voting block. Hillary cannot win a general election w/o the black vote.... Like it or not she has pretty much said FU to black people. Her husband was smart enough to understand the importance of the vote...she has not yet. I've heard white people complaining about the black vote and that Barack Obama is getting it. Of course he is...and Hillary is getting the vote of old white people...same difference. Here is the problem, if the nom is handed to her...the black population, WILL NOT go to the polls in Nov. They will not be betrayed again and let it go unpunished! Specifically with how vile Hillary has been in her Kitchen Sink stratergy. I can't wait for Bush to get out and I want Mccain to lose whoever the Dem-Nom is...but Hillary has a 0% chance of beating Mccain w/o the black vote.

I am a 51 year old woman and have not thought of myself as angry or old. I am simply backing Hillary because she can handle the pressure. She is smart and tough. When a president has to deal with leaders of countries such as Iran,
he/she better know they are not going to "play nice." We can whine over here
in our country,write letters to the editor of our local paper stating that question were too hard, or the Iranian/terrorist/insert appropriate adjective her/ leader was mean. Call me naive but I don't think the opposing people in power will care. What people don't like about Hillary is exactly what we need in a president. I'm glad she is on our side!

So let me see if I got this straight. Hillary claims that she is more electable, because she is more prepared to answer the phone at 3:00AM, whereupon she could immediately decide to "obliterate" Iran, right? This a plausible senario, extracted from her own stated positions, proving that she craves power so much she would say and do anything to usurp it. She is as scary as Bush, and every bit as untrustworthy. Please get rid of these despots.

excellent analysis and good point.
why vote for someone who is gettign most of his voters from people making a lot of money. that is elist! it is a bad sign. we dont need a democratic bush.

I am an almost 60-year-old Hillary supporter. One of my objections to Obama is somewhat age-related. He has consistently sidelined the people of my generation and denigrated our accomplishments. For example, he seems to enjoy criticizing the previous Clinton Administration. Although I believe Bill Clinton seriously undermined his presidency, his administration put the country on a sound economic footing and adopted many effective policies. Anyway, when Obama says that it is time for something new, that he wants to turn the page and write a new chapter, I object to his language because it fails to acknowledge that the people of my generation are still making important contributions to American politics, to the economy, to social programs, and to cultural and educational life. To me, "Washington" is not the enemy. I find Obama to be incredibly arrogant in his belief that after his limited experience that he has the expertise to govern effectively. Maybe he will some day. But for now, I value what Hillary Clinton brings to the governing table. What my generation advocated in the 60s -- social, racial, and economic justice -- has still not been achieved. But we are not ready to pack it in. What is changed in my thinking is that I recognize that experience is highly undervalued in resolving contentious issues and achieving critical goals.

So, I'm not sure Obama can count on my vote if Hillary loses. I'm still thinking about it.

The FACT is that Obama is simply a
weaker candidate than Cinton or McCain.

I am a 51 year old man and have not thought of myself as angry or old. I am simply backing Hillary because she can handle the pressure. She is smart and tough. When a president has to deal with leaders of countries such as Iran,
he/she better know they are not going to "play nice." We can whine over here
in our country,write letters to the editor of our local paper stating that question were too hard, or the Iranian/terrorist/insert appropriate adjective her/ leader was mean. Call me naive but I don't think the opposing people in power will care. What people don't like about Hillary is exactly what we need in a president. I'm glad she is on our side!

Frankly, Obama's negatives are simply
overwhelming.....

What issues is Hillary facing? Oh, the issue of sniper fire! Oh, I forgot that was not a lye it she mis-spoke!!! O.K. She has all this experience. So as we thought it was her running the White House and not Bill??? I wonder would their marriage survive if she Bill does not help her get back in the White House! I hope she does not plan on sharing her duties with Bill. We know she will not be playing stand by your man making cookies!!!!!!! GO OBAMA GO

The older americans recognize that qualifications and experience are important. they are not likely to fall into the latest fad (obam). they have been there and done that. they are WISE and experienced. that is why they vote hillary!

hillary '09!

MI and FL will not, and should not be counted. They will be seated at the convention in a fair way. The republicans that currently control FL are to blame for FL moving the date up illegally. Only an idiot would vote for the other candidate because the FL republicans caused part of this mess. Obama 2008!

I was an ardent Clinton supporter all through Bill Clinton's Presidency. I often wondered at the time how Bill and Hillary got up each day only to fight the libels and slanders waged against them incessantly. They obviously and understandably did not escape unscathed, but why must they turn their residual anger on Obama. How about more issue concern and less political propaganda. Democrats could then feel
more comfortable with the eventual nominee.

To me, many of Hillary's older white supporters are the last holdouts of lower income/less educated Americans with racists’ leanings that will never vote for a black man. Young white Americans are more 'colorblind' and open to embrace MLK’s dream for Americans to judge a person by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. As her older base dies off, hopefully so will the hypocrisy that keeps this country divided along racial lines.

Actually the article is wrong. If you look at the very numbers given in the article, age is more of a factor than SES. For example, Obama wins among 18-29 with no college, but loses 65+ among college grads. So age is more significant than education in determining who votes for Obama. Age is likewise more significant than income bracket.

The data presented here only show the effect of age, education degree and income, not the effect of gender and race, which may show stronger effects. The result of primary in PA show women of middle and old age are more likely to vote in favor of sen. Clinton than younger women. Race may be a stronger factor as 90% of the blacks in Philadelphia voted for Obama, while sen.Clinton got more votes among Catholic and Jewish voters.

Kirst speak for yourself I am older ,white and educated and I voted for Obama so that does not hold water. I don't consider him a fad...Hilly is a liar,and has much baggage she will never win, the Republicans want her to be on that ballot ....Her experiance is WHAT first lady Ark,first lady and a poor one at that) senator and poor at that.All the promise she made to NY but could not deliver ohhhhhhhhh why Bush got in>>>>> always an excuse for the wench.....Never her fault never answers a question ,just what we need is Billy boy back in the white house....Gads he made this nation a laughting stock and even more so now on the campaign trail for her,he is a has been and so is she.Same ole #### will be going on in Washington..She won't cut off her bread and butter.She cares for herself and herself only,,,Got you fooled hasn't she?????

White America claim that they are not racist.
How come they never accept biracial children as theirs,thank God for few white folks like Obama's family.
Obama please ride on for the sake of those poor children and give them hope.
Obama does not have an ounce of racism in him,besides he can't cut his nose in order to spite his face,he owes a lot to his white cousins.

WOMEN UNITE: HILLARY leads in popular votes. She received more votes in a primary than any democratic candidate in history. She has won all the big states and the critical swing states that really count in November: California, New York, Ohio Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan. No democratic candidate can win in November without these states. Obama has won more states, but the states he has won are GOP states. So in November they really don’t count. Hillary wins in primaries where more people vote, and Obama wins caucuses where less people vote. That really speaks for itself. Obama is trying to suppress the votes in Florida and Michigan and stands in the way of Florida and Michigan delegates being seated in the convention. We do not want a president who wants to suppress millions of votes in Florida and Michigan so that he can claim lead in popular vote and steal the election from Hillary. If he has no problem suppressing millions of votes in Florida and Michigan in order to get the democratic nomination, we don’t know what he will do once he is elected. He defends his 20 year association with the anti-American and racist pastor. When Americans question his relationship with the racist pastor, Obama turns around and lectures Americans about racism. We really don’t know this guy. May be we should give Obama time to prove himself to this nation. We cannot entrust the reigns of this great nation to someone who has not proved himself through his actions. IT IS TOO RISKY.

The press has lost its credibility. They don’t care about truth and values these days. They are after sensationalism and novelty to sell their papers and attract new viewers. They are giving a free ride to Obama and are super critical of Hillary who has given her life time serving this country. Many of the male chauvinists cannot tolerate the idea of a Madam President. It is about time that we elect a woman president.

Ok first of all this peice does not take into account that if Obama wins the nomination, and Clinton is no more, poorer voters are more likely to vote for a Democrat - any Democrat - than a Republican. Some poorer voters might vote for a Republican based on social issues like guns, abortion, or evangelical affiliation - but those don't seem to be hot button issues this year like they were in the Bush/Kerry race. So poorer voters will have the choice of voting for a Democrat who wants to create jobs and health care and a Republican who wants to continue spending billions on an unpopular war, continuing tax cuts for the very wealthy, and more of the Bush/Cheney failed economic policies. Obama might lose some poorer voters to McCain, but once Hillary is out of the race, Obama will become the obvious choice over McCain.

The fact is Older people have more experience & can smell a rat faster & better than young people, who have to get suckered a few times befor they catch on.

I have to laugh, Obama could come out of the bathroom with toilet paper stuck to his shoe and blame it on Hillary! Then his clone-like supporters and mesmerized media would say, "Yes, Hillary fights dirty, she put the toilet paper on his shoe!" Obama made the bitter remark, Obama stuck his foot in his mouth when he said McSame would be a better president than Bush and Obama will continue to stick his foot in his mouth. Hillary is just a woman struggling in a man's arena to be the first woman president. She doesn't have to fight all that dirty because Obama is his own worst enemy.

Just the news media once again trying to portray Hillary as the choice of racists - despite Obama's overt relationship with a racist minister. Imagine if Hillary went to a White Supremacist church. Polls are useless and the news media is a joke. How about getting Obama to actually come up with a platform?

Well I wish I could go by this survey. Then I would be well educated and make good money. Guess I am just different.

We have lost a lot of manufacturing jobs in the last decade. Free trade was passed during the Clinton administration. It was a big give away to business. Now Mrs. Clinton claims she was against NAFTA! Why did she not speak out all these years?

Mary,you talked about the negative add in N.C. about Obama.I am happy you know that the add is by the Republicans- they are doing everything possible to get Hillary nominated.Because she will be a better candidate to beat in the fall.Obama is yet to show to the American people the negativity in the life of The Clintons. The Republicans are really waiting for her.All that is bad about Obama are the so-called friends around him.For a president who is ready to talk to our enemies,there is need to show that in his past life. Is really unfortunate that Obama lost his mother. It is wrong to for any American to see Obama as Black.How long did he stay with his father? they met just once. Presidency is not a right to any family.Bush-Clinton-Bush-?(Clinton).We need a change in every aspect of our politics.

Clinton is fighting a generational shift. Deep down in the heart of Chelsea, she would have voted Obama because that is where her generation belong. Hillary Clinton, take the honourable path of supporting Obama to save the democratic party from defeat come November. One good turn deserves another; The democratic party has been too good to the clintons(From Governor, President and senator) The party deserves sacrifice from the Clintons.

The Proof is in the Pudding...

Let's be real folks! Senator Obama won over one million votes (out of less than 2.5 million overall votes cast) in Pennsylvania- a state that he was not predicted to win anyway. The unmitigated truth is that he "lost" by less than 300,000 votes and by less than 10 percentage points in a primary in which independents were not allowed to vote. (It's significant to note that since independents will be allowed to vote in the general election.)

So call it what you must, but to paraphrase Shakespeare, "A rose called by any other name smells just as sweet." And for me, a win called by any other name is still a victory.

So congratulations to Senator Obama and his supporters for the outstanding job in Pennsylvania!

Yes, It's an age issue that the far left elitist just don't get. The boomers of today have the political experience of past elections to relate to. Some of the demographics of todays party is made up of many young people that have not paid enough attention or done their research into past elections. This primary has gone past the stage of nominating a candidate, it now has to do with electability in the GE. In politics if you wait long enough the truth reveals itself and so the electorate is starting to see the real Obama. Clinton has been in public life much longer and most of the dirt on her has long since been revealed. There is more yet to come out on Obama and many are starting to wonder if they want this being revealed after the stone has been cast. You can bet your boomer that the republicans have already started to amass the dirt that they will use consume Obama's candidacy.

Obama = McGovern or Carter = Big time losses for the Dem Party. Learn from history because it will repeat itself if Obama is selected as nominee.

The flaws in candidate Obama are finally being revealed to the voting public and here in Wisconsin everyone that I know who supported him in the past have now changed their minds. As a person who has worked for many years to try to get the Milwaukee black and student population registered to vote, I see yet another problem. These two groups move so frequently...most several times a year...that they are almost never in the same place when it comes time to vote. They have to be re-registered even if they are actually in the same town. Also, many do not register at all because they do not want their addresses to become part of a traceable record. I myself was actually amazed to find this out about a large population group. Counting on this type of voter to put Obama on top in the GE is really futile.

You know what I'm sick of him and his analogy on why people didn't vote for him. Why can't it just be because they aren't as stupid as he thought. It may not have anything whatsoever to do with quote "loyalty to Clinton" but, maybe just maybe in is arrogant brain somewhere he can fathom the ideal that it has everything to do with the people seeing threw him. Seeing how transparent his life is when put under a microscope. You think he can wrap that ideology around somewhere in his superior brain. Maybe shut up long enough to figure out WE THE PEOPLE pick and choose and unfortunately we are choosing not to pick him. He needs to get over himself. Oh and before the racism is brought up since that seems to be the way to retreat. I'm black we can't be racist so I'm told. Call it what you want.

Racism is still very much alive. You can try to dress it up anyway you like, but it is here and it doesn't appear to be going anywhere anytime soon. This Democrat race is only one piece of the evidence that it is still very much alive.

I'm sick of people pointing fingers at the Clinton's for what was truly the truth. As a black woman I agree Jesse Jackson did the same thing, next.... if he were a white politician none of this would have been a issue, next...I agree! Common Sense states that if we had found out that a WHITE politician had been going to a bigot church for two decades and it had come out in the media during a presidential campaign he would have been beat to the ground and conceded weeks ago. What gives this black politician anymore leverage than a white one. I'm sick of people playing with my intelligence. He is NO better than any other politician and I wouldn't vote for him if my life depended on it. This at this point has NOTHING to do with race but, it DOES have EVERYTHING TO DO WITH COMMON SENSE.

You have to remember and try to keep in mind that Hillary did little to win in Penna, except to show up for her FUND RAISERS. It should come as little surprise that the Old Guard Rendell, Clinton polictics dominate the rather inflexible DEMO population of Penna. The Status Quo prejudice polictics is not completely hidden.

It is sad to say that there is a rather intolerant side to the Demo Party to real change & acceptance that is needed. To the Rendell, Clinton crowd, they thrive on this common knowledge, and is little wonder that Hillary came into Pa. with a 30 point lead and expected to win by at least 25 points.

Senator Obama refused to give up on the People. With the mocking, cackling old show Clintons in the background as he gave his message of Hope, Change and the need for this Country to get past the negative polictics and get back to doing the work of the People.

Like you I was in denial but these skeletons are well hidden, But you've seen them surface by the Clintons, Rendells, Media, etc. from time to time.

It's a sad scenario as most of us older folks don't have the slightest clue why we won't accept the inconvenient truth. So Sad! .

I just posted in another room where an 80 year old elderly veteran help ME gain insight, and even more of a respect for veterns. His words resonate. May not be what I want to hear but, I so respect him for telling the truth. I'm black he's white and he made so much sense. I don't have a clue who he's voting for except I know it isn't Obama. He said Black and White soldiers died in wars. Said black solders made history, and broke records, as outstanding air plane fighters. Said those men did better than most of us white solders. Said young lady how could anyone trust someone to do the right thing for the United States if they don't even respect it. Made perfect sense. He said that is not just disrespect to white solders but, it also shows a lack of respect for black solders. He said we all did our jobs rather we believed in it or not. Told me to tell him (Obama like I know him) to look up the history of the Buffalo soliders.

Republicans had nothing to do with it. The DEMOCRATIC Party leaders in Florida and Michigan decided to move the DEMOCRATIC primaries in their states.

The leaders of each party in each state decide when to hold their primaries or caucuses.

The DEMOCRATIC National Convention decided not to seat the delegates from the DEMOCRATIC primaries in Florida and Michigan.

Quoting:

"MI and FL will not, and should not be counted. They will be seated at the convention in a fair way. The republicans that currently control FL are to blame for FL moving the date up illegally. Only an idiot would vote for the other candidate because the FL republicans caused part of this mess. Obama 2008!"

Black Florida Teacher for Hilary or McCain. If my Florida vote doesn't count as a democrat I'm sure the Republicans won't mind getting it in November. I'm tired of throwing my vote away in Florida. I'm not moving from the state, just moving my party affiliation. The republicans at least can respect a voter's right to vote even if they stole it from Gore.