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The Palin Equation
August 29, 2008 3:59 PM
Part of the immediate Sarah Palin spin has been to suggest that the Alaska governor’s position on the Republican ticket is a play for former supporters of Hillary Clinton. In the data, it’s hard to see.
An easier case to make, instead, is that Palin – if she has any effect at all – may help support McCain not in the center, but in the GOP base.
We’ve looked today at Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents who preferred Clinton for the nomination and have not lined up “definitely” behind Obama – the movable ones. One challenge for McCain/Palin from the start is that these voters by definition are inclined toward the Democratic Party. But there are others:
-Eighty-four percent of Clinton movables classify themselves either as moderates or liberals. Just 14 percent are conservatives, as is Palin.
-Sixty-five percent in this group think abortion should be generally legal (compared with 54 percent of all Americans) and 34 percent say it should be legal in all cases. Thirty percent say it should be generally illegal; illegal in all cases, just 5 percent. Palin opposes legal abortion.
-While 56 percent in this group think Obama does not have enough experience to serve effectively as president (hence their compunctions about supporting him), an identical 56 percent also think McCain would continue in George W. Bush’s direction. And only 13 percent approve of Bush’s job performance.
-Clinton movables trust Obama over McCain on the economy – the single top issue by far – by 50-35 percent.
Six in 10 Clinton movables are women, but it’s awfully tough to argue that women will vote for a woman because she’s a woman. In the incumbent Republican romp of 1984, with Geraldine Ferraro alongside Walter Mondale on the Democratic ticket, women voted for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush by 56-44 percent.
Fundamentally, as we’ve reported previously, the top of the ticket drives the vote; we see no consistent evidence of a vice presidential nominee directly influencing vote choices. That said, the selection is a piece of the puzzle that helps people understand the presidential candidates’ thinking, and to that extent a conservative opposed to legal abortion and supportive of gun rights might reassure strong conservatives and evangelicals, core GOP groups that have viewed McCain with some skepticism.
The addition of a successful young politician may also be intended to counter concerns about McCain’s vitality, but it could run the risk of exacerbating them instead. McCain himself, discussing his v.p. pick last spring, noted “the enhanced importance of this issue given my age.”
That, as well as other possible effects, remains to be seen. And in the end this surprise selection could have been intended simply to give the McCain campaign a basic ingredient it’s had in comparatively short supply: a dash of excitement.
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Problem is... I think what they are refering to is not the 99% of Hillary supporters but the 1% of crazies that all candidates have ...the ones that will look for any excuse to fulfill their spiteful anger. Their choice is not about reason or what is best...
it is about what makes them feel better and the fact that Palin's parts are the same as Hillary's they will say they are voting for women...even though Palin is against almost every last thing Hillary stood for in trying to protect women.
Posted by: dl | Aug 29, 2008 4:31:39 PM
Biden then quipped, "If I had your hair, I'd be president, you know what I mean? I wouldn't be screwing around with this job."
SEEMS EVERYONE KNOWS THE OBAMA/BIDEN TICKET IS UPSIDE DOWN.
Posted by: JA | Aug 29, 2008 4:34:36 PM
Since McCain has opposed women’s rights, equal pay, laws on domestic violence, right to choose, then isn’t she just a token to get elected?
I just found another interesting item on another site. She is already under investigation. Yes!! An actual investigation in her home state.
Different day, More of the same!!
Posted by: judesuper | Aug 29, 2008 4:35:53 PM
Can you see this individual as president? Obama went through 18 months of a presidential campaign, with all the tough questioning and sounded pretty knowledgeable and presidential throughout.
Some Americans think that foreign policy experience equals alpha male who wants to club everyone one the head. To me this isn't the case, and I think Obama is in fact far more into it in terms of foreign policy than McCain. But, for the guys who are for the club, I just can't see how Palin can help.
I think this is a shallow attempt to get the Clinton disgruntled, who have largely already moved to Obama after the Clintons' speeches. I suspect it may backfire, because, unfortunately, everyone who considers voting for McCain knows that he may not make it through his term.
Think of Palin as president. Are you kidding me? Michael Palin of the Monty Python would be more reassuring.
Posted by: Gianluca Pollastri | Aug 29, 2008 4:35:55 PM
Obama has 3 1/2 yers of forign policy experience in the US Senate.
Paley has zero.
Poor judgment from McCain. Just pandering to women.
Posted by: krista | Aug 29, 2008 4:36:06 PM
The VP pick provides a glimpse into a candidates' decision-making abilities and judgment. McCain has demonstrated his marginal abilities in these areas with his VP choice.
This woman would be a heart-beat away from the Presidency. He has mocked the process, and proved he cares more about getting himself elected than making sure this country would have a competent leader should something happen to him.
His new name should be McLame.
Posted by: GS | Aug 29, 2008 4:41:56 PM
hey Kistra: Obama has NO foreign policy experience at all.. wake up and get educated
Posted by: Hilly-Billy | Aug 29, 2008 4:42:58 PM
I don't see how Palin will help McCain at all. The groups that he needs to retain or win over are moderate Rebulicans, Independents, and moderate Democrats. The selection of Palin does little toward that end. Pro-choice, pro equal pay for woman voters (Hillary supporters) are not going to vote for Palin just because she's a woman -- to be honest, it's a bit insulting.
Posted by: Alissa | Aug 29, 2008 4:43:13 PM
Palin may be a woman but does not share womens` values. She is also dangerously inexperienced considering McCain`s age and his argument.
What about the economy McCain?
Posted by: krista | Aug 29, 2008 4:43:17 PM
Palin doesn't want Polar Bears to be a threatened species, because it would place restrictions on oil drilling. She says that evidence that the polar caps are melting, the threat for Polar bears, is not proven, and that global warming is not proved.
A more of the same pick on global warming for sure.
Posted by: markymark | Aug 29, 2008 4:46:17 PM
Numbers aside, this is obviously a strategic choice that has more to do with what's going on in the Democratic camp than it has with Palin's fitness for the job. Her greatest asset to the McCain camp is being a woman, not because they want a woman there, but because they need a woman to beat that black dude. Good choise, but for all the wrong reasons.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | Aug 29, 2008 4:46:26 PM
So...
Obama's not ready to be president because he's only been a senator for 4 years. Palin is ready because she's been Alaska governor for 2? Oh, and I loved how one of the qualifications she touted in her speech this morning was that she was in her local PTA. That's just great.
McCain picks an inexperienced governor that no one outside of RNC circles has ever heard of, her biggest qualification is that she has a vulva, and oh, by the way, she's under investigation in a corruption scandal.
Wow. Way to go, McCain.
Posted by: Wendy | Aug 29, 2008 4:46:30 PM
Hill billy
Yes Obama has foreign policy experience. At least 3 1/2 years in the US senate. Did you think they just sit in the Senate house for nothing other than discussing high profile foreign policy?
Palin has zero. And McCain has flip flopped on the issue of experience. Palin is anti womens rights.
Posted by: keith | Aug 29, 2008 4:48:39 PM
PALIN-GOVERNOR OF ALASKA=EXECUTIVE
EXPERIENCE.........
McCAIN=SENATOR-WAR HERO......
McCAIN/PALIN '08
COUNTRY FIRST.......
AMERICANS NEVER SURRENDER.....
GOD BLESS AMERICA......
Posted by: NICHOLAS | Aug 29, 2008 4:51:28 PM
I used to think Obama had limited experience but after McCain showing poor judgment on hisw VP pick I see a superior judgment in Obama.
Posted by: keith | Aug 29, 2008 4:53:58 PM
For anyone to think it's just pandering to women by choosing Palin, suggests to me that they do not have a clue. McCain, while I don't agree with everything he has done, by choosing Palin, shows he is still a maverick. The safe choice would have been to choose Romney and attack Obama on his lack of experience. Romney would have been like any other DC insider. But, she is "outside the box". That to me is change.
And Krista---since when does supporting abortion equal "women's values"? That is media talk because there are large number of women in this country who don't support abortion but they don't get heard like the LOUD/money-backed voices that agree with you. Women's values cannot be defined by any single topic because what it is important to a woman on the Navajo reservation in Arizona is vastly different than the young professional woman in New York City or the rich, white retiree in Florida. Where they probably do agree though, is that abortion is NOT their main concern. So, please, think "outside the box" of 'women's values'.
Posted by: sunny | Aug 29, 2008 4:58:42 PM
The Obama cultists and Media are hard at work all over the web calling Palin the most disgusting, sexist, vile names you can imagine. They’re saying she looks like a porn star.. are you freaking kidding me? I am ashamed to have ever belonged to such a hateful party. The democratic party has officially been declared dead today! I will support this McCain/Palin ticket wholeheartedly and know I’m doing it for Hillary and every woman out there who’s been mistreated and demonized unfairly. Bty, I am a 35 year old male, not a female. I just feel the way Hillary, who happened to be the most qualified democratic candidate, was treated by that idiot and the DNC was unforgivable.
Posted by: Dem4McCain-Palin | Aug 29, 2008 4:59:32 PM
I think Sarah Palin is a wonderful pick for vice President. She has the knowledge and experience to help attain John McCain goal of achieving energy independence for the United States. She also demonstrates that long-term Democratic leadership hostility and policies toward United States owned energy companies have caused our current energy crisis. Her husband works for British Petroleum and instead should be working for the former American owned Arco Oil Company. Arco Oil Company developed and explored the Alaska North Slope and formerly owned eighty percent of our proven Alaskan reserves. With its substantial oil reserves Arco Oil Company should have bought British Petroleum instead British Petroleum bought out and took over Arco Oil Company during the second Bill Clinton administration.
Governor Sarah Palin and Senator John McCain will prove that the Democratic leadership is dead wrong on the energy issue. The average American voter knows that when they need to fill up their gas tank they will have to go to the nearest Fina station and not a FEMA branch station. The average American voter knows that they can not count on some improbable Democrat sponsored government alternative fuel initiative to guarantee that they will always have gas in their gas tank in the future.
Posted by: politicsandtraditions | Aug 29, 2008 5:09:04 PM
Palin may be short on experience, but she is a gutsy reformer. She has an excellent record of taking on the "good ol' boy network" and even corrupt politicians in her own party. She even rejected the embarrassing "bridge to nowhere" project.
I really like Palin and she will excite the conservative base. She's got my vote for sure!
Posted by: SteveG | Aug 29, 2008 5:21:55 PM
Obama has been campaigning for the last two years and has done nothing in Congress which is consistent with his previous employment in the Illinois legislature and his joke of an occupation as a 'community worker'. The only talent this empty suit has is making speeches on Sunday. If he is elected, get ready to lose your job and get in line for soup. A economic depression will be the result. Folks, his numbers are bogus and he is lying to get elected just like he lied about not taking private contributions. You can't get 800 billion dollars in programs from the top 5% income earners and redistribute to the bottom 50% who pay less than 3% of all taxes.
Posted by: Aroleflin | Aug 29, 2008 5:28:12 PM
Palin is Cheney in a beehive
a)Palin governor of Alaska/Cheney executive at Halliburton
b)Alaska untapped regions for oil drilling/Iraq raided for oil interest
c)Palin is good with a gun/Cheney was good with a gun.
d)Cheney convinced Bush that Iraq had WMD/Can Palin convince McCain that polar bears have WMD?
Eight more years of oil burning and the shores of northern Alaska will be a vacation spot.
McCain/Palin = Bush/Cheney
McCain/Palin = WonMoreDisaster
Posted by: Kazeki | Aug 29, 2008 5:39:35 PM
lets not forget, she has been a governor for 2 years, and already has a investigation going on about here abuse of power, and position.
Lets also not forget that alaska is the 47th most populated state in our country. and her so called experience is rather mute.
lets look at her current history of being in some time of office held postion.
PTA-3+years
Mayor-1 year
governor 2 years.
she doesnt being any experience. Zero!
if McCain wins the Election. And later dies. She will become president, and that scares the hell out of me.
was going to vote mccain. but heck no not now!
Posted by: DavidC | Aug 29, 2008 5:46:43 PM
Its amazing the bashing against Palin...
Obama has NO executive experience, no experience working directly with the military (Palin is Commander and Chief of the National Guard - which commands some of the best units in our military based in Alaska), no real record of reform of any kind, no real voting record that amounts to anything (Hillary Clinton pointed out that most Obama votes in his "years" in service have been present - not yes or no on critical votes), and certainly no experience taking on corruption in his own party.
Obama is a NOOB.....and the dems are calling her the one with no experience????!??? HUHHHH???
Posted by: ellis | Aug 29, 2008 5:49:14 PM
I am happy a women is on the ticket. But I'm scared as hell that she doesn't seem to have any of the experience that would qualify her to become president should the 72-year old McCain get sick or die.
She's a big pal of big oil and big business. So that troubles me too.
And this refusal to turn over emails related to an on-going scandal sounds too much like the Bush Administration.
I need to rethink my support for McCain.
Posted by: rick | Aug 29, 2008 5:50:44 PM
McSame just handed the election to Sen. Barack Obama on a silver platter!!! The man must have lost his mind to make this choice. Obama/Biden 2008!!!
Posted by: caliguy55 | Aug 29, 2008 5:51:54 PM
Nothing to back up claim that "Since McCain has opposed women’s rights, equal pay, laws on domestic violence, right to choose, then isn’t she just a token to get elected?"
I only see blogs that support this statement, not fact.
And Obama has 3 1/2 years of foreign policy????
Posted by: JoJo | Aug 29, 2008 5:52:17 PM
Who says she has no foreign policy experience? Her state is on the border with Russia---3 miles away at the closest point. She is on the front lines! She has to get up every morning and stare down Putin while Obama and Biden are in line getting their bagels at the Senate cafateria!
Posted by: Jason | Aug 29, 2008 5:53:59 PM
Again, Palin has MORE experience than Obama to be President.
She has been a REAL executive in office, she has run a government, at the city level and state level. She has tacked corruption head on in her own party, fought against big oil companies, and cut pork spending. On top of all of this, she has a family and children. She commands the Alaskan National Guard, which contains some of the best units in our country - because they are stationed strategically for our defense in Alaska.
This "fear" or worry that she isnt ready is silly... you should be MORE afraid of Obama - who has NO record of any of the things that I have mentioned. Heck, as many democratic senators have mentioned (errr.. initials HRC and JB) - he has a horrible record voting... in fact he DOESNT vote....
Obama Biden is a scary ticket... lets just cut Obama off and let Biden run... as a 30 year insider of Washington, at least HE has done something..
Posted by: ellis | Aug 29, 2008 5:58:23 PM
Interesting. The Conservative base is ecstatic with McCain's choice in Sara Palin. Why is it that the opposition is against his choice? Fear. McCain/Palin are destined to prevail in November. Liberals whine, whine, whine while Conservatives grind-in and get the work done and know our destiny is in our own hands, not government, as Liberals like to.. oh yeah... whine whine whine about.
Posted by: Kari | Aug 29, 2008 6:05:47 PM
I really think it was a good choice for Mr. McCain and his has my vote, sorry democrats I was once one of you, but thru this process I think that John McCain is the way to go. Obama his speeches are great but there is no substances for me, I just can not connect with his ideals, and I don't trust him at all.
Posted by: Retha Jay | Aug 29, 2008 6:06:49 PM
sorry to say this, i was up in alaska, anyone in the military is pretty darn good. but to focalize the national guard in that light, and since i retired last year from the national guard in alaska. we just do our jobs, and i wouldnt say we are some of the best, nuff said, the base commander up here has more pull then she ever could. and her being governor is a nice accomplishment, but for the 47th ranked state on population, i seriously doubt there were much issues up there besides her ongoing case of her abuse of power. also enough said!
Posted by: Moa | Aug 29, 2008 6:17:36 PM
Obama was a STATE senator NOT a US senator and has NO foreign policy exp.
Know the facts! Why do you think he made a futile attemp to travel to the middle east??
The talk is already that Palin has no foreign policy, she has just as much as Obama diff. is she is on ticket as VP not as Pres. McCain has plenty of foreign policy exp. and didn't need to get a VP to help him out. She is a tough, strong women and is for women - for not all women think abortion is good for women. She is an excellent pick and will make a great first women VP. As for the investigation, which as no grounds, What is Palin response (paraphrased) - bring it on ! - She welcomes it and says "Hold me accountable" So this election -Get in the know and let's get it on, it's time for the punches and the swings, last one standing wins.
Nov. 4th - Go vote 08
Posted by: vote08 | Aug 29, 2008 6:21:12 PM
McCain has just stamped a seal of approval for the Obama presidency! Thank you for being so conscientious and kindly stepping away from leading the country into a deeper hole.
Your love for the country is well appreciated, Sen. McCain!
Yes, you are absolutely right! We do need a person like Sen. Obama to lead the country and bring back the American prosperity and peace to the world!
Posted by: GoneIsMcCainThankGod | Aug 29, 2008 6:24:10 PM
Congress tried to buy Palin by offering her funds to build a "bridge to nowhere" and she told them to shove it! Now that is the type of politician I like! Go Sarah!! ex DEM!!
Posted by: mfmros | Aug 29, 2008 6:24:37 PM
I think Palin as VP shows McCain is still a maverick......was it the right choice? NO! Won't be voting Republican this time around.
Posted by: JesseDaBody | Aug 29, 2008 6:53:09 PM
Palin - a Stellar Pick! She has More Experience than Obama! Since the DNC and Obama threw Hillary, Michigan and Florida under the bus, I can't vote for Hillary. Well, there is more than 1 way to skin a goose, so Let's have John the Maverick and Sara the Barracuda get in the WhiteHouse and Clean House! We'll get our change that way ,with out a "G D America" questionable politation being staged and shoved down our throats. McCain/Palin '08'
Posted by: John McCain for President | Aug 29, 2008 8:10:30 PM
I'm still trying to figure this one out...
Palin is a champion for ethics in government, but she is currently under an active ethics investigation?
McCain reportedly defies his party position and believes in the threat of global warming, but picks Palin, who as noted above, is fighting placing polar bears on the endangered species list and doesn't believe the data on global warming?
Do the majority of Americans REALLY want a vice president who during her campaign two years ago advocated for teaching of creationism in public schools?
Seriously? Am I missing something here?
Posted by: Jeremy Slater | Aug 29, 2008 8:11:33 PM
"Cheney was good with a gun."
Now, wait a minute, Kazeki! Let's remember that Cheney was the one that shot his friend on the ... ahem ... hunting trip.
However, the analogy may hold - I predict Palin will shoot down McCain's campaign in a matter of weeks.
My guess is that after reconsideration, McCain's gang will try to downplay Palin. On the bumper sticker they'll probably display her name in red against a dark blue background, rendering it illegible. (This is what Bush One did with Quayle during his reelection bid.)
Posted by: pianofan | Aug 29, 2008 8:12:55 PM
Umm..Jeremy Slater..I'm guessing that you want the right to be tolerant & accepting of gay marriage, women's "rights, etc. Is that correct? The right is continually bashed for not being open minded & tolerant and yet I read your statement about teaching creationism in school....which doesn't strike me as very tolerant & accepting. Do we want kids to have only information we "believe" in or do we want them to get both sides of the story (on any issue) and then form their own opinion? Isn't that what school is for?
Posted by: Sunny | Aug 29, 2008 8:33:56 PM
She's crooked and will fit nicely with Mcshame and the GOP..
Bush 3 term gauranteed!!
Posted by: Megan | Aug 29, 2008 8:34:37 PM
I don't know what McCain was thinking, but she is weak on experience and very unknown. Of course she does appeal to the right wing christians who don't think, just lockstep vote republican.
How anyone can affiliate with the republicans after all the crime, lies, corruption, and sexual perversions. They say Jesus but they don't act like him.
Posted by: Michael Guilford | Aug 29, 2008 8:35:10 PM
"I read your statement about teaching creationism in school....which doesn't strike me as very tolerant & accepting."
Sunny, creationism has no basis in science. If we're going to teach creationism, we'll also have to include the Wiccan, Buddhist, Hindu, etc., beliefs about how everything got started. Not enough public school tax money to include 'em all. Let's just stick with the science. If creationism is so important to you, teach your kids all about it at home or church where it belongs.
Posted by: pianofan | Aug 29, 2008 8:39:46 PM
What is McCain thinking....
Ok I want to part of this Pandering..
BE A MAN MCCAIN, PAWLENTY OR ROMNEY...
You just gave it away...
FOOL
Posted by: Tim | Aug 29, 2008 8:43:45 PM
OBAMA, 10 Years as a Illini State Senator 2 1/2 years US Senator..
Palin 20 Months as a Gov...
McCain must have picked her for her looks..
Sexism at it's finest!!
Posted by: MCCAIN IS SO FLAWED | Aug 29, 2008 8:53:58 PM
Go mcain, better than a practiced speech maker. Give obama a mirror and a mic.He talks about afforable medical.Affordable to who? How much income is consider to be affordable.I wonder what obama would have done in mcain place as a p.o.w .. That right he never was in the miltary.Bidon average Joe in touch with working class.. Has'nt had a real Job .Sen at 29.. what is he talking about , his paper route.
Posted by: Wayne | Aug 29, 2008 8:54:40 PM
True Conservatives will all stay home this election...
Only the Racist will be at the polls voting for McCain..
Veterans are voting for Obama..
SHAME ON YOU MCCAIN!!
Posted by: MCCAIN IS SO FLAWED | Aug 29, 2008 8:59:43 PM
Sarah Palin could be our next Commander-in-Chief? Is this some sort of a joke or something?
Was Paris Hilton not available?
Unbelievable. The Publicans ARE getting desperate.
Posted by: MCCAIN IS SO FLAWED | Aug 29, 2008 9:03:24 PM
Sorry for all the women haters and that refused Unity.
McCain is a real politcian not some rock star or puppet, his new pick was a real real politican as well as who have cause and the care for the common good, not mongering games called rock stars or pandering.
There about the America for Ameican people for the Common Good of American families here.
Posted by: GG | Aug 29, 2008 9:25:54 PM
pianofan: I want my kids to know both sides of issues whether it's evolution vs creation, pro-life vs pro-choice or whatever. My point is that the Democratic left wants the Republican right to be tolerant & accepting of gays/lesbians, pro-choice followers etc..and yet, Jeremy Slater & you, I'm guessing, are being intolerant of an opposing viewpoint. Whether you agree with it or not, it's a view that is out there. To teach the children to be accepting of gays/lesbians in school (which is a choice) and yet not teach creationism (by your statement--is a choice also) is hypocritical. Why are you afraid of teaching creationism in school? It's knowledge to get both sides of an opinion. And that's the type of kids I want running this country in the future--those that are willing to listen to both sides and then form an opinion. How can you argue for your point when you don't know what the other side is? Based on what your mom & dad tell you? That's ridiculous. So what if Palin supported creationism in school? That is such a minor issue to be hung up on. Voters need to look at the issues for each candidate & then decide. To vote for McCain because you're a Republican or to vote for Obama because you're a Democrat is just ignorant. I for one am one who looks at the big picture.
Posted by: Sunny | Aug 29, 2008 9:37:05 PM
This election has been made even more interesting today. It is historic in so many ways that your rhetoric doesn't hold water.
Posted by: Sunny | Aug 29, 2008 9:42:43 PM
Vote for the bigger picture. Pick a topic. I don't see McSame winning in any of them.
Posted by: Michael Guilford | Aug 29, 2008 10:17:53 PM
Prolife, we would not all be here today
Posted by: Gloria | Aug 29, 2008 10:40:53 PM
I can't comment on Mccain VP pick since I don't know anything about her. I support Obama-but I can tell you this --MCcain is not a young man-he could get sick or die-Does he really think she will be able to lead this county as President and commander in chief. Or does McCain even care?
Posted by: lowes4321 | Aug 29, 2008 10:50:09 PM
Great - McCain doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Shia, doesn't know that Czechoslovakia stopped existing as a country 17 years ago, and regarding foreign policy, HE's supposed to be the KNOWLEDGABLE one on this ticket!
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Choosing Palin as VP candidate was a purely reactive, vote-getting strategic decision. Talk about a willingness to put the well-being of the country in jeopardy for the sake of winning an election! Desperate! Transparent! Reckless! Craven!
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Women at large will not support Sarah Palin! Anyone who supported Hillary Clinton will not vote for two right-wing anti-choice candidates. Palin will merely have the support of those who want to force creationism down people's throats, and who don't want women to have control over their own bodies.
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And you know folks, McCain only met Sarah Palin in February! They've only talked once on the phone! This is not even a shotgun marriage - it's a BLIND DATE! If elected, the whole country would be on a blind date with someone completely unknown to us, even by McCain, unprepared for the international stage, and who was not even vetted!
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Is this the kind of decision-making you expect from a president, especially one who may leave the scene at any time due to ill health or death, leaving the country in the hands of someone who's not at all educated or experienced on the world stage? It's not surprising - his willingness to compromise his principles on torture, offshore-drilling, etc. shows who he really is.
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I'm so grateful Barack Obama chose Joe Biden, with his decades of foreign relations experience. support of women, support of labor, and street cred. Now that was a wonderful executive decision on Obama's part. And I can't wait for the debates between Obama / McCain, and Biden / Palin!
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All in all, McCain's pick of Gov. Palen shows McCain to be panicked, unstable, and without judgement or a moral rudder. His so-called "Straight Talk Express" ran into a ditch years ago.
Posted by: whybaby | Aug 30, 2008 2:37:36 AM
judesuper, if you had a link, why didn't you list it instead of just inuendo? For months the Obamabots have been saying that Hillary needed to go get elected as Governor of a state and get some experience as a Govenor and then come back and run for POTUS. Why these Obamabots did not think the same of their own candidate who does not even have as much experience as Hillary does, who knows, but then again then only know one word anyway (not the definition, just the word). So here, as Charlie Gibson pointed out today, McCain picks a Govenor as his VP. And, as he continued, she has something neither McCain, Obama, nor Biden has. She has experience running an administration. You can argue only for 2 years, although she has thirteen years altogether in office, you can argue she just ran a town and a state, but however little it is, it is more than all three of them together. So, since being a Govenor would qualify Hillary in so many Obamabots minds, what is your problem now?
Posted by: Melanie | Aug 30, 2008 2:46:32 AM
But you know what, whybaby? I bet McCain and Palin both know how many states we have in the US of A.
Posted by: Melanie | Aug 30, 2008 2:50:16 AM
What happened to Huckabee? I hoped he would be the VP pick. At least he has 10 years as Governor compared to what is it 18 months for Palin and her term as Mayor of some place in Alaska. What is the population of Alaska minus the polar bears, penguins, and that white owl that was on the endangered species list that I saw on Dumb and Dumber.
Posted by: James | Aug 30, 2008 5:09:14 AM
Ya, I like seeing my opinion in print but I am really looking for someone who has the courage to say just exactly how outraged slashed ###### they are at this choice. Let's not worry about upsetting our wives.
Posted by: James | Aug 30, 2008 5:12:24 AM
Ya, I got more time to add additional information. Troops in Iraq, problems with N. Korean and Iranian nuclear ambitions, Russia is Russia again, and McCain's VP choice slash potential president if something should happen to him is absolutely - one big negative, one huge minus, one catastrophic subtraction, you get the result, summation, conclusion.
Posted by: James | Aug 30, 2008 5:27:10 AM
Some of you need a lesson in economics...and QUICK!! When Obama states that he plans to spend $20 BILLION and $60 BILLION on just 2 parts of his economic package, I wish you all would realize that the government makes money by TAXING ITS CITIZENS. And for those of you who think that taxing the "weatlhy" will help..... they can't tax over $80 BILLION from only a certain % of people. Some of that will come from corporation taxes. And if you knew anything about economics, you'd understand that when ANY business gets taxed, one of two things is going to happen: someone's losing a job OR the difference in that tax will be made up by RAISING prices. If you all really think that ANY business pays taxes.... WRONG!!! They're imbedded in the price of the good or service that is provided. It's quite simple. Two parts to any business: cost & profit. Ex: how much does it cost me to make a product or deliver a service, and how much do I need to charge to make a profit? If Big Government steps in with another tax, any business owner is going to either have to cut their expense or raise what they charge to keep the same profit. Good lord people! Wake up & smell the coffee!!!!!
Posted by: Tracy | Aug 30, 2008 9:09:22 AM
NICHOLAS your right we never surender and we never will also we have already won the war in Iraq Militarly and it takes a big man and a big country to admit when they are wrong and we were wrong to go into Iraq period. McSame would like to have our military stuck in Iraq forever this confuses me being in the military I know tactics and bushs are destroying the military we are losing all our junor officers and all of our experianced non-commisioned officers this is a DANGEROUS combination VERY DANGEROUS for our military. Second with our smaller lighter faster military the key one of those three is smaller and we are stuck in Iraq that means we are at a point whereby we cant respond to another threat even if we wanted to so we all better pray no one else decides to attack us or our allies they russia just did to georgia because if they do we will again as we did when russia invaded georgia will not be able to do anything about it because our military is stuck in a war that no one wants the US taxpayers or the citizens of Iraq. The only people who want it is the GOP because that there only fear leverage at the monent to use to maintain control.
Posted by: getsmart | Aug 30, 2008 9:17:01 AM
This pick by McCain caused me to change my mind about the election and throw my support behind Obama. Palin is a woman, but threatens all of my values. Besides the fact she has already allowed the arial killing of wolves in Alaska, she wants to drill in ANWAR. So for me that sums it up about this woman. With five kids, she probably doesn't believe in birt control either. McCain /Palin.....NOT!!!!
So folks, it wasn't Obama that changed my mind, it was McCain. I still think Hillary was the "better" candidate... and Palin may be a woman but she's no replacement for Hillary. It's silly to vote on gender or skin color. It's got to be the values that motivate us. I know Palin will rally some of the far right, but she also will persuade people just like myself to finally give in to Obama. I hate to admit it, but I'm gonna vote for Obama.
Posted by: Texas Lil | Aug 30, 2008 9:21:53 AM
I am truly disgusted and terrified by McCain's choice to have Palin as his VP nominee. This woman is absolutely unqualified to run the country. And what an insult to women. Of all the women Republicans, this is the one he chooses? It shows just how little he values the role women play in politics. MCCAIN THINKS ALL WOMEN WILL SEE ANOTHER WOMAN IS INTERCHANGEABLE WITH HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE HE STUPIDLY DOES! Country First? How about Ego First? Apparently, McCain is above mortality, from ANY reason - bad luck can befall any person, really, regardless of age - and how can he justify jeopardizing our country's well-being?
By the way, I am also disgusted by how commentators in addition to Republicans are saying that Palin's inexperience is commensurate with Obama's (not really true) "inexperience" as the Karl Rove and others have tried to call him. The truth is, Obama is NOT inexperienced, he's been around for a LONG TIME, AND he has strong credentials above and beyond politics. For God's sake, he holds a degree from HARVARD LAW SCHOOL and was an involved community activist with groups whose well-being were closely intertwined with what was/is going on with politics before entering the political arena.
Let's face it, MCCain is repulsive, and so is Sarah Palin. Please folks, DON'T VOTE FOR THEM!
Posted by: Ali D | Aug 30, 2008 9:54:48 AM
A commerical fisherman and slightly experienced remote state governor a heatbeat away from the presidency? Good gawd .. what are you republicans thinking?
Posted by: Kgh | Aug 30, 2008 9:55:04 AM
Congratulations President Barack Obama, by selecting Palin as his running mate, McCain just handed the presidency over to you on a silver platter!!
Lucky for those of us who were going to vote for McCain, his senility streak surfaced before he became president!!
Posted by: Abie Gonzales | Aug 30, 2008 10:27:52 AM
Obviously, the republicans have been playing with the emotions of the American public for so long, they feel that they can sell this snake oil to us again. As an independent, moderately conservative voter, I am stunned that McCain and the republican party expects us to accept Gov. Palin as being qualified to be the leader of the free world. With all due respect, earth to McCain, Rove, Palin, Cheyney and the apparently deranged republican party - take a hike and get out of town. McCain/Palin will destroy the chances for republican candidates in heated state and local races to be elected. I would give a million dollars to know what the troops think of McCain, his judgement and the idea of Palin as the Commander and Chief? McCain's choice is wreckless, irresonsible and truly unpatriotic.
Posted by: Arshad | Aug 30, 2008 11:52:42 AM
McCain/Palin and the Viagra Express is coming to a state, city and town near you! Republican candidates on the lower ends of the ticket- run, don't walk to the farest location possible. This is not a ticket to run on; it's one to run from!!! I suggest Foreign Policy and the Economy for Dummies as a Christmas present for McCain, Bush, Palin and the new RRepublican party. Thank God I left the party almost 10 years ago to become an american independent.
Posted by: Arshad | Aug 30, 2008 12:08:17 PM
I think it's about time to stop thinking of the "Republican base" as a single entity. Governor Palin, I'm sure, appeals to the social conservatives but what about the strong-national-defense conservatives? I hope John McCain lives to be 110 but the fact is that he turned 72 yesterday. Do we hand over the security of the free-world to a 2 year governor of a state with the population equal to that of the CITY of Austin, Texas (which is only the 16th largest city in our country?) Can you imagine Governor Palin across the table from Vladimir Putin?
Posted by: TSnow27604 | Aug 30, 2008 12:08:34 PM
Is sad how we worry about the color of a person istead of be thinking how smart this man is and how like all of us. Obama is a man like us he work hard to own what he have and he suffer the same like some of us, don't have a father. I vote for him I take a chance for change and I never will vote for McCain/Palin is just incredible how he think woman will vote for her because she is one.
Posted by: Ximena | Aug 30, 2008 12:36:49 PM
Barack Obama has been a Senator going on 12 years!!! 3 1/2 of which he has been a United States senator!! He has sat down with different leaders of foriegn countries, Organized and is leading one of the most successful elections ever Lets not forget He beats the Clintons a political Powerhouse!!
Palin has been the governer of Alaska for 1 year and 9 months!
I am a Republican, But I'm sorry I must MUST vote for Obama now!! Thanks McCain...
Posted by: Valerie | Aug 30, 2008 1:15:47 PM
Sarah Palin is a woman of substance unlike Obama who is all talk and NO substance. She has only 2 years as govenor of Alaska but she has done more in those 2 years than the other govenors in 12. She cut taxes, exposed corruption even in her own party. She voided a contract with oil companies (even BP whom her husbands works) and reworked the contract and awarded it to another company that was more qualified to handle the pipeline contract. She went against the company who employs her husband. Palin suspended the gas tax in her state and gave extra money to the people of Alaska to help with rising energy cost. She is able to do this with surplus money because she had sense enough to cut wasteful spending on pork barrel projects of the former Democrat and Republician administrations. The so called investigation of firing the person in charge of Public Safety had nothing to do with him not firing her former brother-in-law. The compaints against him came before she was governor. She offered the person a job as Director of the ABC Commission but he turned it down. He simply was not doing his job correctly is the reason he was fired. Her brother -in-law had made threats against her father, had tasered his 11 step-son, had a habit of driving drunk and drinking in a state patrol car. He should have been fired. All these things happened before she was governor.
Sarah Palin has more executive experience than Obama. He was state senator then US senator. He has spent most of his time in US senate running for President. His experience consist of being community organizer and associating with Ayers, Rev. Wright etc. Michelle Obama was paid close to 1 million dollars per year for her so called community work. Being on the board of director of 6 organizations pays well.
To all those who say she is only one heartbeat away from President, how is that worse than Obama being President. After all she does have more experience than Obama. He has NO experience. She does. He is running for 1st place and Palin for 2nd place. I would rather have a vice president with her experience than a president with NO experience.
McCain/Palin has my vote.
The students at the 2 colleges that my family members attend here in NC are very excited about Palin. They tell me that their freinds are happy with McCains choice and plan to vote for them.
By the way I am a woman who did not vote for Hillary, so I am not one of the ones people like to say are just mad because Hillary did not get the nomination. I vote for the candidate who I think has a better understanding of what America needs and the ones who have decent morals and values. I am also smart enough to see through the biased media hype and the empty speaches of the candidates. Style is good at times but there has to be some substance to go along with the style. Obama has the style but no substance. He is a good speaker no doubt, however his speaches lacks specifics and substance and are empty.
Posted by: NC Democrat | Aug 30, 2008 1:47:29 PM
After all the hype Mcain put out about Baraks inexperiance.He picks a vp with absolutly none.Are you kidding me! Do any of you republicans see the blunder or don't you get it either.
Posted by: Ron | Aug 30, 2008 2:38:27 PM
McCain will win the election now that he has a woman with a loving heart on his ticket.
Obama is surrounded by Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko and Rezko.
Oh....I forgot about the domestic terrorist.......William Ayers.
How dare obama supporters push this man down our throats.
Posted by: Al from NJ | Aug 30, 2008 2:48:39 PM
Hillary supporters will NOT vote for Obama.
Why is the media and the DNC acting like they will.
It's over for Obama.
He blew his chances by not putting Hillary on the VP list.
Obama is embarrassing and instead of satisfying the Democratic party by offering the VP position to Hillary, he chose to hog the glory of his nomination.
obama and Michelle blew this election. Big time.
Posted by: Al from NJ | Aug 30, 2008 2:52:07 PM
Thank God for McCain.
We need a patriot with moral values and normal friends in the White House.
Posted by: Rick from Pa | Aug 30, 2008 2:54:27 PM
Obama's plan to place a windfall tax on the oil companies is a joke..Exxon alone earned $1400/sec last year..How baaad! At the same time they paid $4500/sec in taxes and over $15,000/sec in operating costs..Do you think they will absorb any additional tax or increase the price of oil and gas to offset it?
Posted by: TK | Aug 30, 2008 3:55:37 PM
"Palin had priorities. She shrank the local museum's budget