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Well according to the GOP government should not be involved, just sit back and watch everything collapse. Somehow that is going to relieve all the tension, and worry that the public feels, and when they find that companies are no longer laying off, then we will begin to spend.

Oh I can feel the confidence growing allready.

GOP has commons sense, you cannot lower unemployment by adding more govt. employees, period. pretty soon, it will be one taxpayer to one govt. employee. The stimulus makes no sense, the Omnibus is nothing but pork, and Obama plays the violin while the US burns.....we need more than maybe, and stay the course. I may not make 40K a year, but I am smart enough to buy a house I could afford, keep myself employed with healh insurance, and actually pay my taxes. Maybe if all the dems who owe taxes would pay up our national debt would be lower? That's a change I can believe in.

Hey, it's change "we" can believe in.

It's the new era of accountability. Somebody else's, of course, not Obammy's.

Heh.

How does the government expect confidence to grow when:

1. None of the people that perpetrated this mess are being held accountable, i.e. arrested and jailed?

2. The government keeps filling the these very same pockets and wants to keep doing so?

==Well according to the GOP government should not be involved, just sit back and watch everything collapse.==

The majority in Congress, which holds the purse strings, is Dem. The man who signs the bills is in theWhite House and he is Dem. The Dems are in control, and they said everything will change on 20 January. Everything changed, all right, but not the way Libs expected.

So, if anybody is sitting back and watching things go to c ra p, it's the Dems who have the power to do something and who have chosen to go Socialist, and THAT isn't working.

==None of the people that perpetrated this mess are being held accountable...==

In fact, Libs deny that the ones who are responsible are NOT responsible.

Remember the mid-nineties when Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd and Bill Clinton said that everybody should be in the position to have a house?

Remember that they rejected regulation of the mortgage-lending industry?

Remember, then, how mortgage lenders immediately offered subprime loans to people who were so stupid that they didn't think that, later, they might not be able to afford the ballooning payments?

Remember '03, when Senator McCain offered a bill to regulate mortgage lenders and Barney Frank said that mortage lenders are all ok and need no regulation?

Remember '03-'04, when President Bush warned of the crisis we are in now?

Republicans WANTED regulation. Dems REJECTED regulation. YOU do the math.

Libs deny that the ones who are responsible are NOT responsible.---> Libs deny that the ones who are responsible are responsible.

There's only so much optimism in Obama's ability can do. Results will be necessary for a true economic turnaround.

If you want to understand how we got here read Meltdown by Thomas Woods, he nails it. Then ask yourself why the corporate media won't report about it...

Unemployment rate at 8.1 not BAD?? Who are you kidding. Want the economy to move faster to recovery. Get the people (8.1) unemployed back to work and we are off to a great start.

I am having trouble with the 8.1 unemployed! Is this the number collecting unemployment now? What about the people who's unemployment ran out, are they counted?

==There's only so much optimism in Obama's ability can do. Results will be necessary for a true economic turnaround. ==

However, with sooooo much optimism going into the Obammy Admin and how giddy his supporters were after the January 20 immaculation, you'd think that it would carry the day. After all, outlook is very important to the markets, for instance. Consumer confidence is supposted to be based on, well, confidence. None of this has happened the way we were told it would happen. Neither the markets, nor consumers, are confident, and, even though some elements of the economy lag by eighteen months, investor and consumer confidence aren't among them; they are day-to-day, minute-by-minute, and their being in the tank is part of the Obammy economy.

Well according to the GOP government should not be involved, just sit back and watch everything collapse.

The GOP offered up an alternative plan to the "stimulator". Democrats rejected it. So when you say they just want to sit back and watch it, your LYING!

Adding more government jobs sounds nice, but is it?

As someone pointed out above, we could be at a 1:1 ratio. What would that really solve? Nothing. It takes a private sector taxpayer to pay the wages of a government employee. Even if that government employee pays taxes, that doesn't count. So they give back a fraction of their taxpayer income, big whoop.

==If you want to understand how we got here ...==

We got here cuz-a foreclosures; people had and have houses whose mortgage they cannot afford. Banks don't get their money. They cannot lend money to businesses for payroll and other things they need. They lay off. Those people don't buy and don't pay. Other businesses don't get their money. They lay off and don't buy, and so on.

This is the result of the lack of regulation of the mortgage-lending industry.

In the mid-90s, the Dems -- the likes of Barney Fran, Christopher Dodd and Bill Clinton -- rejected regulation of the mortgage-lending industry; they said that eveybody should be able to afford a house, and mortgage lenders followed that signal by offering people subprime loans they wouldn't be able to afford laters, as we find out.

Republicans wanted regulation of mortgage lenders.

Senator McCain drafted mortgage-lender legislation in '03. Frank and the Dems rejected that, saying that the mortgage-lending industry is solvent and healthy.

President Bush, in '03-'04, warned of the crisis we're in now, and, STILL, Dems won't admit they did anything wrong.

Remember that Republicans WANTED regulation. Dems REJECTED regulation.

Maybe confidence would be higher if we didn't have one political party constantly pushing corporate welfare, whining about "socialism" if a single American tax dollar is used for Americans in America (instead of, apparently, corporate contracts for overseas adventures) and was capable of taking any responsibility for any mistakes made when it held power.

Somehow the GOP believes that if they gnash and whine and cry and scream and bully enough, the American people will put them back into the driver's seat. But at this point, the only thing I think Americans will feel if the current Administration fails is that it is time to permanently dump both political parties and their arrogant claim to entitlement.

We have an idiot at the wheel. I have always said GW Bush got a bad rap. This mess that we are in now just goes to show you how well he was able to hold things together.

==The GOP offered up an alternative plan to the "stimulator". Democrats rejected it.==

This is ALSO true.

Dems want this country to fail. THAT's the only explanation.

Wow the blame Clinton card has already been played, and clearly the Republican control of government for the past 8 years (including 6 of having all branches of government in control followed by two years setting new records for filibusters protecting their status quo) NEVER HAPPENED.

The Grand Ol Republican Party: The Buck Stops Over There. With a Democrat. Probably Clinton.

John Thinking it Through:" It takes a private sector taxpayer to pay the wages of a government employee. Even if that government employee pays taxes, that doesn't count."

You have me convinced. We should fire them all - get rid of the useless policemen and the university professors who teach students (including foriegn students who pay high out-of-state tuition taking a bite out of our trade deficit). The government never produces anything of value, they just fund pork-barrel projects like inventing and laying the backbone of the internet, or Hoover Dam, or useless junk like that.

==Somehow the GOP believes that if they gnash and whine and cry and scream and bully enough, the American people will put them back into the driver's seat.--

"Gnash and whine and cry and scream and bully" won't do it. Voters' realization of their mistake last year will put Republicans back into the driver's seat.

==But at this point, the only thing I think Americans will feel if the current Administration fails is that it is time to permanently dump both political parties and their arrogant claim to entitlement. ==

Libs like to resort to a "scortched Earth" solution: They understand that they are wrong but won't admit it, and, so, they say BOTH parties are to blame.

No, the fact is that the Dems' rejecting regulation of the mortgage-lending industry is what started all this. Republicans WANTED regulation. THIS is what we'll remember in '10 and '12.