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Of Taxes and Tea

April 15, 2009 8:50 AM

Today’s “taxpayer tea parties” may reinforce a sense of purpose among conservative activists – but at the moment they’re unlikely to resonate beyond. Recent polling shows little in the way of broad concern about taxes in general or Barack Obama’s approach to them.

In an ABC/Post poll two weeks ago, Americans by nearly 2-1 rejected the characterization of Obama as “an old-style, tax-and-spend Democrat;” 32 percent said it fit, but 62 percent instead said he’s “a new-style Democrat who will be careful with the public's money.”

Specific to income taxes, in a Gallup poll last week, 61 percent said the amount they pay is fair, a number that’s been stable since 2004. In another result, while 46 percent called their taxes "too high," that matches the fewest in Gallup polls since 1956. It was a far higher 68 percent a decade ago.

While it’s hard to find anyone who likes paying taxes, objections to them generally are overstated. When we measured stimulus preferences in January, a tepid 23 percent gave highest-level priority to a $500 tax cut for most Americans. In February, while one-third said the stimulus didn’t do enough to cut taxes, many more, six in 10, said its tax cuts were about right, or went too far.

In December we asked people, open-ended, to name the most important issue for Obama and Congress to deal with; just 1 percent said taxes. It was the same in our pre-election polling, when we asked the single most important issue in vote preferences.

Also in our pre-election polling, Obama led John McCain by 9 points in trust to handle taxes, the first Democratic candidate to lead on this issue since Bill Clinton in 1992. And in the national exit poll, 22 percent of voters thought their taxes would only go up under Obama, not McCain; but 12 percent thought they’d go up only under McCain. And 49 percent thought they’d go up regardless of who won.

Public interest in tax cuts tends to be overstated; ask President Dole. That said, insouciance on taxes would not play politically: Americans long have been sensitive, in particular, to the notion that their hard-earned tax dollars are wasted by federal misspending.

That makes it an issue on which Obama, with all the spending now under way, may yet become vulnerable; indeed Clinton’s rating as a “tax and spend Democrat” started where Obama’s is now but worsened sharply in the next nine months. Whoever shows at the tea parties today, conservatives' real hope is that they're setting the table for a bigger shindig down the road.

April 15, 2009 in Partisanship/Party ID, President Obama | Permalink | User Comments (70)

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No,Obama is a new Tax and spend liberal thats the differnce. And you don't have your pulse on Main St. America. Because you are the MSM who continues to minimilize the grass roots in this country. Which by the way are not all conservatives. The constant mocking of the TeaParties by any other Media outlets then Fox will prove to be the Force that gives us more reason to carry on.

Posted by: karen | Apr 15, 2009 8:58:01 AM

Grassroots? More like astroturf... Right wing organizations have been spending millions to form this "grassroots" event.. it even has a corporate sponsor... Fox News! A corporate media sponsor! That's a first! A "Grassroots" event with a corporate sponsor... you people are getting so played! That's OK, Paris Hilton appreciates you fighting fro her...

Posted by: Mike | Apr 15, 2009 9:20:06 AM

‘‘We, the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts — not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.’’

— Abraham Lincoln


‘‘It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error.’’

— Justice Robert H. Jackson

Posted by: Mark | Apr 15, 2009 9:21:58 AM

These "tea parties" are less a wave of populist anger at Obama than they are a bizarre and potentially dangerous push for conservative insurrection by none other than Fox News.

Didn't they call Bush bashing "treason" only a few months ago? What about this incendiary political stunt?


Posted by: matt | Apr 15, 2009 9:23:45 AM

These tea parties are NOT grassroots organizations at all but rather astroturfed by the conservative organization FREEDOM WORKS and being championed by FOX NEWS.

The media needs to smell the coffee and look under the hood at these tea parties.

Posted by: nancy | Apr 15, 2009 9:31:29 AM

The conservatives sure do gather quickly when the big tax spending switches from paying for an unecessary war and lining the pockets of the fat cats to actually helping the people of this country. After all it will be on the backs of the middle class to pay most of the national debt.
What ever happened to the balanced budget and surplus left from the Clinton years? Who was protesting then?

Posted by: Lorraine | Apr 15, 2009 9:33:00 AM

At the beginning of the American Revolution, a third supported the cause, a third the crown and a third could have cared less. Sound familiar?

Maybe the O administration should consider that before they allow the Department of Homeland Security to issue reports that advise putting returning combat vets and those who oppose policy on watch lists. That kind of stuff really p,,,es people off.

Posted by: verner | Apr 15, 2009 9:33:05 AM

We've got some revisionist history here. Bush bashing called treason?---you better go back and clear that with your Moveon.org/Daily Kos/MSNBC handlers.
This is NOT an incendiary stunt. It's people saying get control of the spending. You can't succeed by throwing dollars at every single problem. That's the lazy way to fix problems. 1-1 1/2 years of pain versus 10-15 years of pain with runaway inflation.

The major political movement is the Gimmee/Gimmee party and today's polititions will do anything to get their vote.

Finally, Mike, all grassroots movements have leaders. So, please don't just quote your extreme left leadership, have an original thought.

Posted by: azcowboy | Apr 15, 2009 9:45:58 AM

Hey Angie: We are pure gentlepersons compared to what the dems did during the Bush administration. The so-called party of democracy wants to restrict public protest? Your position on protest is sickening to me.

Oh, maybe you would want to watch Fox News first. After all, they were deemed the fairest network during the 2008 primary and general election period.

Posted by: azcowboy | Apr 15, 2009 9:57:54 AM

I'm neither a conservative nor a liberal, just to clear the air before I'm dismissed as right wing or left wing or whatever people would label someone who they don't like.

Now..

Funny - the article states that we've had the lowest taxes in the last decade ... who was president for the last 8 years again? Oh yeah ... Bush, an evil conservative fatcat. While yeah - the war wasn't the wisest of choices. Get rid of Saddam, yeah I can agree. Jump on any reason? Probably not a good thing to do.
And who was president ten years ago? Oh yeah .. Clinton, you're beloved and honest Democrat/Robin Hood .. and his harem. Enough said on him.

Let's get real people. Do I think the teaparty is anything more than a big media hype? Nope. Will it do anything? Nope. Do I think they SHOULDN'T do it? Nope - heck, liberals do crazy stunts left and right for media attention and protesting things ... why shouldn't conservatives? Oh yeah .. because you disagree disagree with them.

But really ..

Do I think our country will fair better under the O-train? Doubt it. Do I blame Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan or Carter or or or for the bad economy and all our troubles? Nope. I blame lazy people and those who enable their laziness by handing them whatever benefits they want.

Make jobs. Not more government programs.

Taxes? Least of our worries. If someone doesn't keep all those evil corporations from moving to Mexico there won't be any money in America's pocket to pay taxes.

Posted by: Tadd | Apr 15, 2009 10:04:02 AM

why would a liberal care if Fox news, or a few citizens want to protest over taxes. you keep saying its no big deal....but the actions of liberals is singing a different story. sad they think they won, their candidate won, we all lost.

Posted by: beau | Apr 15, 2009 10:09:19 AM

I don't think the American people are ready yet for the Tea Parties. We just have not felt the effects of the Stimulus and bail-out monies. Until probably next year. Will we then be up in arms? Right now most Americans want us to get fixed with this Economy, we are looking for jobs, better health care, fixing the Social Security system, then we will go hay wire on taxes.

I agree with the Tea Parties and what they strive to do. But most Americans are not yet concerned enough now. We just have so much that happens day to day with this Economy and we are struggle to get though the day to day.

Posted by: Kathy | Apr 15, 2009 10:12:30 AM

Most people just don't get it and are out of touch...

The Tea Parties are real...It's not about legitimate taxing...

Just think what is next? After the last Tea Party...there was a Constitution written...

Posted by: Steve | Apr 15, 2009 10:15:33 AM

Any American who is not concerned with the massive amount of spending that is about to take place has their head up their TV. An annoying fact of life: SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY THE TRILLIONS BACK!!!! The getting something for nothing attitude and the buying things we don't need with money we don't have is what got us into this mess. This is insanity and if you want to hide it behind some kind of stupid political blame game go right ahead. Some of us are going to call the jerks we have in Washington out today. You can just sit there with dumb smug looks on your well-fed face and make excuses for the idiots as they pass out OUR MONEY like it was candy to their friends. This movement will grow.

Posted by: MadJayhawk | Apr 15, 2009 10:22:26 AM

Do these people not realize that we are in the 'kimchi' that we are now in because of the very policies of the Bush/Cheney administration and the Republican congress that dominated everything over the last 12 or more years. Now Obama is trying to rescue us from falling into the gutters set up by the republicans and they are crying foul? Gimme a break!! If the republicans had not gone to war, thrown out deregulation and spent, spent, spent, we would not be in this situation now. So all you ignoramus 'tea-participant', look not at the speck in your brother's eye, but the beam in your own. The disaster was all of your own causing.

Posted by: Karen | Apr 15, 2009 10:23:15 AM

The GOP wants to be the only party in America. They have tried with all their heart and souls to get it done. They have been very upset by the last few months and are trying again to become the only political party that wins. They can not stand that 50% of America and more on any given day think they are wrong. This tea party stuff is all smoke and mirrors. What they are really doing is seeing how many of the right they can muster today and if it going to pay to keep this up until they can wrench power from us dummies on the left.Well we'll see. I happen to think a two party system keeps everyone honest and I would hate to think we could loose it so easily.This is way to early to tell how the money we have spent on the turn around is doing. I think Citibank is a good example of how things may turn out OK. Time will tell.

Posted by: Bonnie Kimberly | Apr 15, 2009 10:46:04 AM

For those that are going to the "tea" parties, please remember this. 95% of all people just recieved a TAX CUT! The people who didn't, Madolff, Limbaugh, Hannity, Glen Beck, Murdoch, etc. The question must be askeed then, are these people complaining that they want the rich bankers to get more tax cuts? That is what the "tea" parties are about. For thoses who think it is about spending, how many BILLIONS did Bush NOT put on the different spending plans that he and the rubber stamp congress of the 2000-2006 put through. It is easy to say you are not spending when you lie about your spending. I guess it comes down to this, YOU GUYS LOST!!!!! Really, If you don't like it, move out. I stayed during the last 8 years of the worst presidency ever, you guys could at least try 4

Posted by: concernedciticen | Apr 15, 2009 10:54:46 AM

Hey Karen...you talk about "astro-turf." you mean kinda like those union plants that were outside AIG offices "protesting" the bonuses that Geithner and Obama both knew about several weeks prior? Or maybe like the Democrats in control of Congress who requested that language that would have stopped those bonuses, be taken out of the stimulus bill. CBS, NBC, CNN, ABC, have absolutely no credibility. They are in bed with Obama. They do and say nothing without having already run it by the White House to get approval. Please! I am tired of extremists on both sides. I am sick and tired of Obama's plans to spend us into oblivion.

Posted by: Marc | Apr 15, 2009 11:08:06 AM

It's not how much taxes we pay as Americans, but HOW that tax money is used that bothers many. We need more spending on domestic issues like healthcare and education. We need less wasted on pork barrel projects, particularly our bloated defense spending. Why we give sycophant terrorist states like Israel any aid let alone billions of our hard earned American dollars every year is beyond any patriot's understanding, when our appeasement to the Israeli Lobby simply jeopardizes our national security even more.

Posted by: MY Muslim | Apr 15, 2009 11:17:35 AM

How can people be so dismissive a o large portion of the population. GMA consistnetly mocks any idea the is to the right of their liberal views. I don't see them ever presenting both views of an issue. If I weren't sick I would be at the Denver Tea Party and resent the idea that expressing my views is "fake". I am tired of the "fake" promises of Obama.

Posted by: Jennifer | Apr 15, 2009 11:17:36 AM

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