Arab League Meets to Discuss Gaza

Why would arab leaders care? Saudi Arabia is tied to the US and Egypt to Israel. Why would the arab leaders listen to their own people? Well, all arab leaders are dictators. These are some truce...

All the Arabs are mad because the Jews are using US equipment to kick Hamas' rear. Didn't Lebanon buy 29 Migs last week?

Sorry...they bought 10 MIG-29s...last week.

Only way things change is if the people in those nations overthrow their governments because the oil money is too good to forgo.

I'm sick of Arab peoples' selective outrage. They need to re-evaluate their entire reason for anger at Israel while they hypocriticalliy support and coddle their own terrorists. If Hamas's only purpose as stated by them is to destroy Israei, then Hamas is a cancer to the Palestinians whether they admit it or not, and Hamas deserves to be be destroyed. If Israel's only reason for existing were to destroy Palestinians, and they were always starting fights first, then I would be on the Palestinians side. Of course nobody in their right mind enjoys the idea of civilians being collateral damage, but these same people screaming about Israeli's attacks are the very same ones who use their populace as human shields and hide their munitions in mosques and private homes and the same people who strap bombs onto their boys, their women and their young men, having no qualms about doing that. The Arabs always have a reason to shift blame, but they forget that that Israel had to wall off
and close off the Palestinians in Gaza because the Palestinians kept sending suicide bombers across the border into Israel. And Egypt couldn't open their border due to an agreement with the European Union and the UN in which there needed to be monitoring and international observers if the border were to open. No such observers are in place. So if Israel imprisoned Palestinians
in Gaza and other places, it is to be understood that Israel correctly saw free and open borders as a threat to their own security. I'm sorry, but I'm willing to look the other way at this Israeli campaign until Palestinians start valuing the lives of other peoples as much as they scream for people to value theirs when Israel counterattacks. Hamas started this. Israel didn't. Hamas is smuggling arms and fighters in through tunnels and have planned for this for a long time before they started rocketing Israel. But then they use the excuse that Israel provoked them for imprisoning the Palestinians inside Gaza. Whose suicide bombers prompted Israel to do that? ......... Americans need to remember that on 9-11 the Palestinians were dancing in the streets and celebrating the the INTENTIONAL, unprovoked murder of 4000 Americans by terrorists. The Palestinians rejoiced. I don't see. Americans dancing in the streets right now, rejoicing in the deaths of Palestinian people. Maybe in the West we should be dancing in the streets too and viewing this as just just fewer future suicide bombers that we have to worry about who will attack our respective countries. And those who say Hamas is the legally elected government in Gaza have forgotten the coup they staged, killing many of their own people who belonged to Fatah, in order to have absolute control in Gaza. This all could be avoided if the Arabs' crappy religious hypocrisy didn't teach their people so much hate. Israel would probably be glad to coexist and trade with the Arabs if these weren't out to just flat out destroy Israel. The poverty and misery of many of these people is their own fault. Israel has certainly made a go of its society and is a leader in culture, intellect and science with only a few square miles of rocky waste land as their country. Why can't Arab countries, with their vast resources at least equal that? Because of Islam. It is a religion of hate and blame shifting.

Interesting point JL. Their hate has done nothing for them but put them further into poverty, it's sad that all their resources are used for destruction and while they keep at it they seem to come closer to self annihilation. Israel has the right to defend themselves-opening the borders would just cause more suicide bombers to cross-And as for the Americans not dancing in the streets during this conflict, apparently a culture clash. The rest of the world is advancing, and it seems the mideast is moving towards a more desolate future. India and China are developing space programs. The U.S. and Europe have space programs. The rest of the world is making new scientific discoveries and notably Israel is a big contributor. So the rest of the world's countries are striving to increase crop yields, ending global warming, desalination, etc., finding the cure to aids, alternative energies, and the religious fanatics of the mideast region are making contributions to the world-slaughter of human life and that's what their money and resources are utilized for.

Three points to note

1. The romans created and named them the : Palestians : when they occupied the region .
2. most palestinians are generally peacable people who get on with there lives ,and by the way many work in and contibute to the israely way of life .
3. Hamas is a construct of the iranians funded helped and guided by them THE NUTS .

Awnser : Bring Fatah back
: Support the piece process
: Regime change necessary in Iran.

A Parable: “Two Neighbors & a Dog”

Parables have been used in the Middle East for over 2000 years to “Moralize” human and cultural issues. I call this one “Two Neighbors & a Dog”.

Once there were two neighbors separated by a chain-link fence and a locked gate. One neighbor had a big dog that he kept in his back yard. The dog didn’t do much he mostly slept. The dog and his master would occasionally go for walks around the neighborhood but was always on a leash because his size was somewhat intimidating.

The neighbor next door didn’t have a dog, but in his back yard he had a pile of rocks. The “Rock Pile” neighbor didn’t particularly like his neighbor or his dog. One day the rock pile neighbor took to taunting his neighbor’s dog by throwing rocks at the animal while leaving his house for work. This continued for several days. After a while the dog would retaliate by attacking the fence and the locked gate with vicious barking and gnashing of sharp teeth. One day the dogs master came out of his house and asked his neighbor to please stop taunting his dog. The rock throwing neighbor simply laughed.

The next day the taunting continued and once again the dogs master repeated his stop request but this time with a warning that he would unlock the gate and let the dog defend himself if he didn’t stop throwing the rocks. Once again the rock throwing neighbor laughed and left for work. This continued for several more days.

One day the rock throwing neighbor came out and once again began a rock throwing barrage from his considerable stockpile. But this time to his distress he noticed that the gate had been unlocked and the dog that had previously been restrained was now unleashed. The neighbor was bitten several times and chased back into his house. The rock throwing neighbor then called the neighborhood police to complain about his neighbor’s vicious dog and demanded that the dog be killed and his master severely punished.

What’s the Moral of the story?

JL
Regardless of your neocon pro-Israeli talking points, the only thing that matters is the occupation. Checkpoints and expanding settlements must be challenged. Hamas could try some sit ins or tying themselves to stuff, but Israel would continue their apartheid operation in the territories. Israel has no moral high ground. They facilitate the suffering of the Palestinians daily. Look at the map of the West Bank. There is no denying the truth.

Truth - Don't forget another point. Get rid of the settlements, otherwise your plan of action will bear nothing.

This fight will always be over borders. It seems organizations like Hamas are funded by Iran, Syria, maybe even Saudi Arabia. Hamas is funded externally so whose interests do they really represent? Anytime Hamas gets entangled in a conflict the Palestinians take the brunt of it. When are the Palestinians going to wake up to the fact that Hamas is not concerned for them? Hamas brainwashes their youngsters and shields themselves behind the Palestinian people.

They are meeting to discuss how they can use plight of the palestinians to further their propaganda efforts. If they really cared about the palestinians, they would use their their large sums of petrol-dollars to help the palestinians to resettle out of the Israeli territories of Gaza and the West Bank.

Huh--There is no occupation of the Gaza Strip. Israel has not occupied Gaza for years. Rather than work to better their lives Hamas only spends international funds to buy guns and explosives and rockets. Not food, houses and decent infrastructure. The reason Israel isolates Gaza from Israel is because the fanatic Muslims won't stop sending rockets and mortars into Israel. Pretty easy solution if Hamas had a brain. Unfortunately the innocent population is stuck in the middle. Then again, I don't see those "innocent" civilians protesting the rockets against Israel. The population gladly allows Hamas militants to live in their homes and store munitions there. Until Hamas is dealt a harsh blow they will continue the bombardment. The innocents always pay for the actions of the terrorist unless they fight them themselves.

How about looking into the past to see how such things were handled. In WWII, cities were indiscriminately bombed. Maybe they lacked the capability of precision. But regardless, citizens of nations were held accountable for the actions of their leaders, elected or otherwise.

Now we have Hamas, which I seem to recall won an election and was/is the legal government of Gaza. The people electing the government are to some extend responsible for the actions of their government. When your government shoots rockets at others, expect to be on the receiving end of return fire.