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Gift Certificates for an Abortion?

December 03, 2008 10:07 AM

Indiana's Planned Parenthood is offering a unique option this winter.  $25-$100 gift certificates that can be used for anything at the clinics from contraception to abortions.  The Chicago Tribune reports today on the effort which is available in 35 clinics throughout the state.  The CEO of the state's Planned Parenthood is quoted by the paper as saying the reception has been "pretty robust, and generally favorable" and that the vast majority of those visiting Planned Parenthood are coming for basic health issues, not an abortion.  The move has set off anger.  Here's an excerpt from the Chicago Tribune:

"PPIN's move has enraged various anti-abortion organizations—Indiana Right to Life and the Indiana Family Institute among them. Jim Sedlak, vice president of the American Life League and executive director of Stop Planned Parenthood, an anti-abortion group based in Stafford, Va., condemns the certificates as a continuation of Planned Parenthood's "annual attacks on the Christian community at Christmastime."

"We are talking about what can be done," Sedlak said. "Look, they [Planned Parenthood] could easily have said, 'these certificates are not to be used for abortions.' But they intentionally chose not to do that."

Those who criticize the gift certificates, said PPIN's Cockrum, are missing the forest for the trees. "We see 92,000 patients each year at Planned Parenthood of Indiana, and 5,000 of them opt for abortions," Cockrum said. "Ninety-five percent of what we do is provide basic health care."

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hmmm... a million dead since the start of the war?

Care to site a source on that ?


this site has a total under 100,000 since the start of the war.

factor that against the way Saddam was exterminating people....

"Along with other human rights organizations, The Documental Centre for Human Rights in Iraq has compiled documentation on over 600,000 civilian executions in Iraq. Human Rights Watch reports that in one operation alone, the Anfal, Saddam killed 100,000 Kurdish Iraqis. Another 500,000 are estimated to have died in Saddam's needless war with Iran. Coldly taken as a daily average for the 24 years of Saddam's reign, these numbers give us a horrifying picture of between 70 and 125 civilian deaths per day for every one of Saddam's 8,000-odd days in power"

Now,...were you and all other liberals who seem so holier than thou about this war screaming about the number of Iraqi's dying before 2003 ?


now obviously none of these civilian deaths since the start of the war is something anyone wanted, but to infer that we have made things worse for the people of Iraq is not only wrong, but it is ignoring the facts!

Posted by: Mike_C | Dec 3, 2008 3:17:50 PM

This sounds like a really good program to me - it benefits people who otherwise might not be able to afford medical care, while pissing off anti-choice right-wing religious fanatics. What could be more satisfying? Actually, unless the Planned Parenthood is forcing people to use condoms, take contraceptives or have abortions what business is it of theirs, anyway?

Posted by: judyinnm | Dec 3, 2008 3:26:07 PM

Steve, you had to throw in "looking gorgeous" while declaring that Palin did everything "like a man"; nice.

Well, let's see...I graduated college - attending only one college, and a far better one than any pf the 5 Palin attended, UCLA - I work hard, I run a business, I don't hunt because I live in an urban area. I'm not politically involved because I don't want to be a public figure and don't want my family harassed. I have 3 children with one husband to whom I have been married for 25 years; you failed to mention that dear Sarah was pregnant when she got married, oops. Oh, I'm also a liberal woman. Yes, I'm pro-choice, but that means that I don't want anyone else making any personal decisions for me. I'm also anti-death penalty, unlike most of the "pro-life" people I know.

All that said, I would have greatly appreciated a Planned Parenthood gift card when I first got married. We were both right out of college, husband in graduate school, only working part-time, certainly couldn't provide for a child if I were to become pregnant, and had no medical insurance to cover me; my husband could get health care and prescriptions from UCLA's student health center, but I couldn't. I also couldn't really afford to get my birth control prescription from a pharmacy; cost for one month was the same as for a week's groceries. I was able to find a group that would do my annual exam and provide my prescription as a price I could afford. Of course, years later this same place was firebombed by some "pro-life" group that didn't do their homework before bombing away; this place didn't perform abortions.

Posted by: Kimmer | Dec 3, 2008 3:27:47 PM

To Steve who understands Hebrew (right).
If your are a scholar then you surely know Hebrew law , the fetus is not treated as a life until after birth, look it up.

STD, HIV, and others sexually transmitted diseases have had a greater rise in arrears were Abstinence Only Programs are taught.

If contraception is used correctly all the points about rises in (unplanned pregnancy, abortion, and STDs) would decrease dramatically. However when people spread the propaganda that it is ineffective as you and the Abstinence Only crowd does it tends not to be used. Of course many believe it is god punishing them.

Proper use of condoms is over 95% effect were as the marriage rate in the US is less then 50%. I say more Condom and less marriage.

As a biblical scholar what percentage of the Bible to you follow? Most of the men in the bible had multiple wives. Do you cut your hair? Do you eat shellfish? Do you wear wool with other linens?

Unfortunately your hyperbole do not the facts which can be looked up at the CDC.

Posted by: TedL | Dec 3, 2008 4:38:49 PM

I'll listen to the pro-life people the day they come out against war, torture and lying. Of course they would need to abandon the GOP so that will never happen. I'm gonna buy a gift certificate in their name.

Posted by: Scytherius | Dec 3, 2008 5:12:43 PM

Why couldn't christian men use the certificates to bring themselves into compliance with the teachings of Jesus as set forth in Matthew 19:12?

Posted by: Saul O. Tarsus | Dec 3, 2008 9:22:10 PM

Planned Parethood continues to delude women with the notion that abortion is an simply an easy, convenient, (and now more affordable) way to deal with unwanted pregnancies. But they fail to educate women about the startling emotional, physical, and psychological damage that can be inflicted when an abortion is performed. Do you honestly believe that PP counselors are giving women a full range of viable options when they visit a PP office? Do you think adoption is discussed? Are they told that they may be unable to have additional children due to the procedure, or that they may encounter feelings of guilt, shame, worthlessness, and self-loathing. Cases of depression and suicide are documented. If they explain these risks adequately, I have no problem with it. But I seriously doubt any organization offering blue-light specials on abortions is providing full disclosure to the women they counsel.

Posted by: Andy Burns | Dec 3, 2008 9:44:50 PM

Planned Parenthood's most holy religious sacrament is abortion. Like the thoroughly unqualified, terrorist fraternizing, community organizer, Planned Parenthood particularly enjoys killing the infants who have survived their abortions. They just love throwing those living infants into their trash cans, although they also enjoy trying immolation, decapitation, suffocation, electrocution, firing squads and dismemberment. They find lethal injection too "humane". Those are some sick sickos.

Posted by: Tom | Dec 4, 2008 1:42:37 AM

Questionit got all his talking points from a MATRICIDAL PEDOPHILE PRIEST tip sheet. He clearly isn't married to even one woman, or he would know UNnatural Family UNplanning is a PEDOPHILE SCAM. Not only are most women's cycles unpredictable, a covered-up Catholic medical study revealed sperm can live in women 10 days--several days PAST their so-called "safe" periods. Moreover, a gruesome Nazi study revealed simply scaring women causes them to ovulate OUT OF CYCLE. Angus McLaren has written eye-opening books on the ancient and U.S. history of contraception. For instance, Jesus never condemned Jerusalem's popular RU-486-like Queen Ann's Lace weed harvested by his followers because not only did GOD his father create this plant to spare women grisly divorce and death-causing bladder and bowel childbirth lacerations, God also gave women 450 OTHER abortifacient and contraceptive plants like COFFEE, ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, GINGER AND SOY. Moreover, Jesus never condemned the mid wife/abortionists who crushed stuck fetal skulls to save underaged or petite mothers' lives. My own Munchausen by Proxy mother suffered childbirth incontinence, feared death by another NFP pregnancy, or divorce because of permanent abstinence, so she chemically burned me head to toe to extort "abstinence" from Dad to "prevent another genetic monster like me if he started another family with a non-Catholic second wife. Dad stayed with Mom BUT HE WENT TO HOOKERS. Meanwhile, my disfigurement has made me wish I had been aborted. All the other Catholic extremist families I know are similarly miserable. Anti-choicers should be jailed for using fetuses to maim and murder women. Sarah Palin pretended Bristol's first child was hers to hide the failure of abstinence-only ed, keep Bristol out of jail for pre-term alcohol abuse of Trig, and probably had an abortion from her affair with her hubby's partner. Mother killers like Andy Burns and Tom love it when women suffer face and breast-eating pregnancy cancers, stroke, heart attacks, autoimmune diseases, etc. in addition to smelly incontinence. Not only would Andy and Tom never stay married to such childbirth-ruined women, they'd probably MURDER such women BEFORE childbirth to avoid $50,000 hospital fees and $300,000 child support. Andy refuses to mention post partum depression and Munchausen by Proxy psychosis that causes mothers to kill themselves and/or their unwanted kids. Andy and Tom would make abortion a holy sacrament if they had to give birth to melon-sized fetuses through their you-know-whats.

Posted by: Heil Mary | Dec 4, 2008 3:10:10 AM

P.S. Most unwanted kids end up as sweat shop/sex slaves or disfigured Pentagon/pharmaceutical lab rats. My anti-choice mother exploited me as the latter. Abortion is much kinder for such victims and it righteously PUNISHES pedophile men by depriving them of fresh victims.

Posted by: Heil Mary | Dec 4, 2008 3:23:35 AM

next thanksgiving, how about instead of pardoning a turkey, President Obama pardon a fetus from an impending abortion?

Posted by: PHILLY JIM | Dec 4, 2008 8:52:16 AM

jules dangle said: "I'll be sending one to Sarah Palin so she can afford to stop bringing defective children into the world."

You're a vile, cowardly piece of crap. You wouldn't have the pair to say that to Todd Palin, because you know damn well you'd be crying and apologizing through broken teeth.

So you say these things from behind the safety of a computer screen. Get out of your mom's basement and grow up.


Posted by: ynot4tony2 | Dec 4, 2008 9:34:51 AM

"Disgusting!!!!! I am pro choice, but gift certificates for abortion, sick, sick, sick!" - Sam Higuchi

I'm with you Sam

But I do like the Huh idea "Maybe pay folks money for sterilization.".
How about this,
$400 gift certificates for Uterus pulls and Vas Deferns cuts, redeemable as a cash card on completion of the procedure.
It would do two things,
1 - Help decrease the amount of unwanted pregnancies.
2 - Give the Human Race a much needed Darwinismic factor towards survival of the fittest.

Sounds like a win win Indiana, give it a try!

Posted by: Noz | Dec 4, 2008 9:49:45 AM

Shorter questionit:

"if god wanted man to fly, he would have given him wings..."

We have contraceptives for the same reason we have indoor plumbing, internal combustion engines, and anti-biotics, you flipping moron: because we're not bronze-age savages anymore.

You're a tool.

Posted by: steveconga | Dec 4, 2008 1:45:23 PM

More importantly, why are they having sex at all?

Why don't we discuss that over drinks and dinner and more drinks? I have some Power-Point etchings which will explain these things.

Posted by: Mooser | Dec 4, 2008 2:22:08 PM

where does it say the certificate has to be for an abortion?
Have you folks ever heard of birth control pills? Or pap smears? Both of which must be paid for, so maybe you want someone in your life to stay on the pill and know their money is tight...so get then a gift certificate!

Posted by: tinat | Dec 4, 2008 2:24:59 PM

After reading through a lot of these comments, it's no wonder our country is in the toilet. People are just plain ignorant.

Posted by: peter | Dec 4, 2008 3:23:38 PM

abc, please leave the false stories meant to throw meat to the right wing in the hands of fox & the enquirer, and drudge. This is a bogus story - the certificates are for birth control and other health services and are absolutely not meant for abortions. The corporate media has perpetuated the idea that planned parenthood=abortion. But that's simply false, just like your 'story'. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: doug | Dec 4, 2008 3:28:41 PM

ABC Sinks To New Journalistic Low!

Going to the level of the National Inquirer now? This article title is misleading, rude, and ultimately a stain on journalistic principals.

My title for this post is accurate. But you got the 'pro-choice' people all riled up, so I suppose you attained your goal with this false 'controversy'.

I might give one of these certificates to my college age niece. It will support a great health care program-Planned Parenthood- and protect my nieces health.

Posted by: shano | Dec 4, 2008 3:29:57 PM

Shame on you ABC News for sensationalizing this story. To exclude one class of procedure would be discriminatory. Abortion is a legal medical procedure in the United States. If one objects, one shouldn't buy or accept a gift certificate from Planned Parenthood. Period, end of story.

Posted by: publicsteele | Dec 4, 2008 3:45:35 PM

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