Tzipi Livni: Why Israel Rejected 48 Cease-fire With Hamas

SMART LADY

While Israel continues stealing land and building settlements, foreign aid to them should cease. Hamas should try some sit in protests or tying themselves to trees. Surely Israel would do the right thing in the face of peaceful protests. Surely.....not.

Can't they start 2009 with new deal of cease fire and forget the past????

Apartheid in the 21st century.

Israel stealing land...Hamas conducting peaceful protests...apartheid! Man, I can't tell if you folks are joking or are half a bottle into your New Year's Eve celebrations! Pretty funny stuff either way.

She is playing a political game at the expense of people's lives. This is one more massacre among many perpetrated by the "chosen" race. After all, they know what is best for all of us.

Dave - All of these things are true. What you need to do is go and look at the settlement land grabs and settler numbers over the last several decades. Israel is grabbing land and building settlements at an increasing rate. No jokes here, just tragedy.

Gaza had all the peace and opportunities it wanted for 3 years - not a single Jew on their land to blame yet they did not create any industry or jobs (other than bomb factories), they did not make their own settlements or plant fields (aside from incessant propaganda of their great love of farming and olive groves - and tearing down the greenhouses left behind by the Israeli's)... Give it up! The so-called "chosen people" walked away and the Hamas faction made it clear that nation building is not going to happen. If their dreams ever come true and they destroy Israel, they will reduce it to a stone-age, third world ghetto as well. Think again who is making the stupider choice affecting "all of us." Step away from the Jew-hating and the rhetoric and look the simple, unvarnished truth. The Gazans had a chance to really do something fantastic and they allowed a bunch of thugs to destroy that - and their lives. They could have built farms and settlements, but that might actually deprive Hamas of it's human shields and create a self-sustaining, somewhat normal society. As if thet would permit that to happen.

Genocide and apartheid and the world is silent. Chickens come home to roost, you can not live in a vacuum, remember 911? If you want to start a holy war in the name of atrocites, the Muslim world and the rest who hate America will gladly oblige you. If America wants to incite a World War covering for Israeli atrocites against it's neighbors, they will be oblitereated, and so will we. America, talk some sense to your leaders before it's too late. Murdering hundreds and thousands of civillians just because you can, leaves a precedent that you will soon one day regret. The sad part is like Gaza, the response will kill, main, and murder innocent civillians here at home, who are not protected. While the men and women who made this come to pass, will be protected, and unpunished for their atrocities against humanity. Some things NEVER "change." Right, Hilliary, Bush, Obama???

Give peace a chance. Is it too much to ask.

I hear you loud and clear Andielee.

Israel has the Technion.
Palestine has Hamas High.

The Israelis make lasers and CAT scan machines.
The Palestinians can't make a light bulb.

Hamas does not want peace. Their goal is to keep up the death and destruction.
The unfortunate Palestinians are paying the price.
When did the Arabs with their oil-soaked land ever help the Palestinians?
Where are the houses? apartments? hospitals? schools? markets? the jobs?
the hope? the future?
How can you prosper when you are bound
and determined to keep up the feud?
Who's right? Who's wrong?
That will never be answered to EVERYBODY'S satisfaction and/or agenda.

When prosperity and hope for a bright future comes one's way, one is more than likely to want to continue that peace.
Hamas needs to be seen for what they are: a conduit of evil that has the Palestinians in a grip of death.
The Palestinians are just props used by Hamas and for those who hate the Jewish people.

If the Palestinians prosper, then Hamas would have no claim of victimization.
Maybe even trade could take place between the Palestinians and the Israelis. Prosperity for all has a funny way of bringing people together.

In the meantime:
Let Dubai put up their money for the Palestinians to prosper.
Let The Arab Princes pony up their gold and cash for the Palestinians.
Let them offer their hospitality to the Palestinians who want respite from all of this.
What Arab countries are open to the Palestinians - for those who want to leave? When were they EVER open to them?

They do not want to answer these charges.
They would rather blow smoke up the world's ass.

to Sympathy............correct. Since 1948, not a single Arab nation has offered to help the Palestinians. They prefer to bitch and moan about their situation then do something to improve it. When the Jews started building the settlements, they farmed and nurtured the land, and offered to live in peace with their Arab neighbors. Instead they were met with threats of anniliation and war. I guess they haven't gotten over it. It's been 60 years, GET OVER IT PEOPLE.

Because Mossad needs more time for their next false-flag attack.

Andielee - Don't kid yourself. Israel left Gaza because of the violence and the monetary costs, not because Israel is a good samaritan. Meanwhile Israel ramped up settlers in the West Bank. The occupation is a crime.

Hamas is the fly in the ointment.
They put people in places that they know will be attacked.
They hide among the civilians knowing they if they are killed, children will die as well.

Look what happened in Iraq. A man on a bike exploded himself in the midst of school children. That's how these people roll. So now they can say, "See what the Americans made me do?"
Hamas is the same. There is no excuse.

You know, money can solve a lot of problems. It can buy first class houses, apartments, schools, hospitals, markets, entertainment, religious places to go worship - do your own thing. SO? Where's the money from all of that oil-drenched land?
They could help the Palestinians IF they wanted to. They could offer a piece of THEIR land IF they wanted to.
They could do a lot more IF they wanted to. They could create real jobs for the Palestinians IF they wanted to .
Becoming a human bomb is not very attractive to most normal people.
They get these poor souls to blow themselves up. I haven't noticed any high-ranking princes or oil guys blowing themselves up, have you?

It seems pretty odd how people forget how this whole conflict was started. An area known as Palestine which was 80-90% Arab for centuries had their land taken and divided in order to create a State for another group of people based on the Bible. No other country during this time period volunteered to give up some of their land for an Jewish state. Yet, the Palestinians are expected to except this and have peace on everyone elses terms. Let's remember that before there was a Jewish state atrocities and what would be considered terrorist acts were happening against the British by Jewish groups.

Dearest Remember,
Do you remember that The Arabs took the side of the Axis during World War 2?
When you are on the losing side of a war you don't get much say in the inevitable changes that get made.

The Palestinians don't get to say "Whoops! we screwed up. Let's have a do over."

Huummmmm . . . .
Maybe the 6 day war in 1967 was an attempt at a do over.
But when you lose see the comment above.

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Since Arafat showed the Palestinians how well outright LYING worked, few words of truth have been issued from that side. Do not expect Israel to respond to lies while the rockets are still being fired. And only those who believe Israel has no right to exist could possibly take Palestine's side in this.

The Arabs need to overthrow these dictatorships that pretend to care for the Palestinians. They then need to use oil as a bargaining chip to force the US to be more equitable on the Israeli-Palestinian issue. Israel continues to land grab and build settlements while forcing the Palestinians to exist on shrinking amounts of land. To me this is the real pressing issue and quite frankly an act of terrorism. The world is beginning to see this quite clearly. I myself used to bye all of the Israeli lobby talking points which are pretty much lockstep with the neoconservative movement. No longer....