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April 20, 2009 12:46 PM
"I think we can respect the Second Amendment and still have reasonable gun legislation that looks at juveniles with handguns or people buying and owning assault weapons. These are things that we as a country need to tackle and we as a state need to tackle. But let's face it; gun violence is senseless. The number of shootings and mass killings we have had over the past weeks and months bring back memories of our own tragedy [at Columbine]." -- Colorado Governor Bill Ritter, asked about gun control and the Columbine attacks, which were carried out ten years ago today
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"Regulation should not prevent innovation; rather it should ensure that innovations are sufficiently transparent and understandable to allow consumer choice to drive good market outcomes … We should be wary of complexity whose principal effect is to make the product or service more difficult to understand by its intended audience." -- Ben Bernanke, Chairman Federal Reserve
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I would prefer to see a total gun ban in the US; however, I would be happy if we could ban assault weapons and close the the gun show loophole. MSNBC ran a documentary about "gun enthusiasists". I was appalled to hear that there are actually people out there who think they (and their young children) "need" assault weapons, grenades, and weapons that blow up and incinerate vehicles.
Posted by: hang | Apr 20, 2009 1:35:11 PM
What we need to do is implement the Second Amendment as it was written, not as it was twisted by the conservative justicers. The first step, all firearms must be registered with the National Guard. You cannot have a "well0rgulated militia" without knowing who is in it and what they have.
Second, because the closest model of the militia to the NRA's vision was pretty much a failure in the War of 1812, we need to assure that its personnel are properly trained. For the physically fit, that means basic training, including infantry tactics, communication, and advanced first aid. Those who are less fit would be trained by the states for tasks the milita would fulfill if they were not deployed.
Third, the members of this militia would be required to muster at least once a year for refresher and update trainig, to include changes to state and federal firearms laws.
To those who object that such registration wouold pave the way for firearms confiscation, I point out that their names are on membership lists (NRA) and subscription lists. Most of them could be easily identifie by any competent tyrant.
Posted by: Jim H | Apr 20, 2009 1:40:35 PM
owning guns is my right, try to take it away, I dare you! I will fight you in court, the city, the country, where ever I need to. You will never take my guns away until you dissolve the constitution. get bent anti-gun cry babies. learn to defend yourself so I don't have to.
Posted by: beau | Apr 20, 2009 2:10:41 PM
Hang, when you say ban "assault weapons" what weapons are you referring to? What is your definition of an assault weapon? If you are thinking AK-47 or M-16,these weapons are already banned from commercial sale within the U.S. So please be specific about which assault weapons you call for banning.
Posted by: jim | Apr 20, 2009 2:11:59 PM
Some have called for banning all firearms from ownership by law abiding citizens. Mexico has had such a ban in place for decades. Last year over 9,000 Mexicans were the victims of gun violence. The only Mexicans who possess firearms are the drug cartels and the Mexican law enforcement agencies and army. The criminals have the guns, the corrupt police forces which are league with the drug cartels have the guns, and the Mexican army over the last decade had 100,000 deserters, all of whom stole their M-16's and offerred their services to the cartels. The only ones with out guns are the Mexican law abiding citizens. That gun ban has worked out rather well hasn't it?
Posted by: jim | Apr 20, 2009 2:16:26 PM
I should be able to buy anything I want. If I can afford an RPG, a Bazooka, a tank, or claymore mines, I should be able to do it, by God! I think we should require people to own and wear handguns, in holsters, just like the old west. Guns for everybody! Shoot the fiends first, ask questions later. If some innocents get killed, to bad. Collatoral damage.
Posted by: Carl Spackler | Apr 20, 2009 2:36:17 PM
Constitution haters are always delusional.
Notice how they think that within the list of individual rights, #2 is a collective right.
I'm willing to set that issue aside for a minute and ask the poster to show the writings of the Founder's that say we should have a National Guard or a standing army.
You'll soon discover that our Founder's were against both. Times being what they are, I understand the need and so did Congress at the time. That is why they are controlled by civilians. But that's beside the point.
Our Founder's knew the importance of an armed citizenry. Not to fight off an invading enemy, but to fight off their own government. To keep government fearful of the people.
Posted by: Gto | Apr 20, 2009 3:04:06 PM
First, LMAO @ Spackler. Good stuff.
Second, I agree with Jim H. You want to own an AR15 or Bushmaster .223, AK-47, or even a 9mm Beretta with an extended clip, fine. File it with the government, pay your dues, and you can have it. But then we need to enforce the law (that some states i.e. pa) have stating that any assault/crime involving a gun means instant 20yrs in prison. As long as you're blowing up deer, who cares, but you hurt a human you're doing some serious time.
Third, I say we institute a policy not unlike Israel or Sweden, requiring mandatory military service. Think of it like this: You have 18 months to 2 years of service which will guarantee some minimum amount of your college will be paid for, and you can even be earning college credits for classes taken during your enlistment. Because of this, we will have a trained citizenry with much more respect for our military.
But whatever, I'm just rambling during my downtime at work.
-- :D
Posted by: jester1976 | Apr 20, 2009 3:38:51 PM
Do any of you newsies really understand that the AK47 is not a high powered rifle? It puts out about 1500 ft/lbs of energy. The .30-.30 lever carbine, the minimum rifle to consider for deer puts out around 1850 ft/lbs. The .30-.06 has been arounds for a longtime as a hunting cartridge. It puts out 2820 ft/lbs so it has almost twice the "knockdown" power as an AK-47. Semi auto hunting rifles discharge one round with each pull of the trigger. So does the civilian AK-47. Functionally it is a 4 cylinder stock Honda Civic with racing stripes and a spoiler. Boy racers and druggies drive these, so we should ban them right?
Papers, magazines, and broadcast networks should be limited to one gun violence story per month. That would cut down on violence by not encouraging copy cat episodes. News reporters and writers should have to undergo a background check and be registered to write these articles to ensure they present a balanced story. And regarding open records and "sunshine" laws,what's wrong with some "reasonable limits" on the press? They'd be the first to scream and sue about their constitutional rights.
Yesterday afternoon was beautiful-I grabbed a few of my guns and went shooting. It's just as valid recreation as your golf game or bicycling.
AK's are popular because they are inexpensively mass produced in Russia, China, and Eastern Europe, formerly to arm the Communist bloc, and now to generate currency by being sold to any "revolutionary" movement. You can get one for less than half of a U.S. made .223 caliber semi automatic i.e. Colt and others. That's also why there are so many Chinese bicycles at Walmart and K-mart. Hey, the Hyundai Tiberon looks hot and is popular with the boy racers. They drive too fast and agressively and scare people and get into horrible accidents. Drunk drivers kill people with cars so let's ban cars too. Now, about those large kitchen knives...Who really needs a 10 or 12 inch chef's knife?
Posted by: RuralOne | Apr 20, 2009 4:04:48 PM
Close the gunshow loophole; mandatory registration of all guns (you register your car, don't you?)And for all gun owners mandatory training. If any one violates such law no discretionary sentencing; absolute prison term.
But until then, maybe the next innocent kid that gets kill is yours.
Posted by: Hurry Writeacheck | Apr 20, 2009 4:11:50 PM
I hate guns. I don’t like hunting. I don’t like shooting. I’ve never
seen much need for guns except for one person using it to kill another
person. I have felt that way since I left Nam. The statistical data on
guns in the home also clearly demonstrates that they cause death or injury by accident or manslaughter. That’s why most law enforcement officials also want more gun control. However, in spite of all of this, our Constitution is the law of the land, and the law is the law. The second amendment is clear, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
I don’t like it, but that’s my tough luck. This is the United States of America. In order for us to stay United we all have to put up with things we don’t like. I would like to see stricter law to prevent the sale of guns to unstable people or for proliferation for unlawful reasons. Other than that, those of use on the left side of aisle have to learn to accept things we don’t agree with if we expect those on the right to do the same. Otherwise you might as well take the “United” out of the United States of America.
Posted by: Philip Grant | Apr 20, 2009 4:31:49 PM
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