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'If we're able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo'
July 20, 2009 10:26 AM
How are conservatives positioning themselves as the White House pushes to reform health care?
RNC chair Michael Steele spoke today about health care reform. He charged that the President was engaging in a "risky experiment" with his push to change the nation's system of care. The Associated Press is quoting Steele as saying, "Obama-Pelosi want to start building a colossal, closed health care system where Washington decides. Republicans want and support an open health care system where patients and doctors make the decisions..." Note that President Obama says he favors a system in which Government provided insurance competes with private insurers. You can watch the President from back in June when he outlined and defended his vision for health care in a forum hosted by ABC News.
And then there is this...
ABC's Jake Tapper posted on his blog Political Punch this weekend about a comment that's getting some attention. As reported by Politico, South Carolina Senator Jim DeMi nt said on a conference call - arranged by a group called Conservatives for Patients Rights - "If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him."
Tapper wrote: "You should expect to hear that quote this week from the White House as they use it to rally their troops, a White House official tells ABC News. Officials will say the people being "broken" are the American people going bankrupt paying for health insurance premiums that increase 10 percent every year, the source says, and that those who want to use this issue to break the president are doing nothing but working for insurance companies and insurance executives."
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The Universal Health Care is only a socialist agenda, even in New England didn't work ! it's a total failure ! why ? The day you have a very emergy situation YOU have to wait in line at E.R. then when the Dr see you , the Hospital may tell you they can't deal with your illnes, refere you to another one and by the time you arrived there you'll already dead, this happened to a friend of mine in a Country with this type of Socialist Care
Also the quality of care will be the lowest you ever see and please, tell me which and where any country in the world is BETTER than USA ? can you tell us WHY ?
Sincerely
Posted by: Raul Baquero | Jul 20, 2009 11:13:02 AM
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, GLOBAL WARMING, CAP AND TRADE, STIMULUS WASTED, UNEMPLOYMENT NEARLY 10%. DUDE PLEASE JUST STOP YOU ARE GOING TO BANKRUPT US ALL!
Posted by: NO OBAMA CARE | Jul 20, 2009 11:38:09 AM
There are people who need this heatlh insurance, people who won small business and work hard pay their share of the tax bill and still cannot afford good health care. besides the ins company's and Dr's make far to much money off other peoples misery and sickness.
Posted by: vern | Jul 20, 2009 11:51:51 AM
If this is so great, why does Congress, the Prez, and all the federal employees not have to join it themselves ? Because it will SUCK, that's why.
Posted by: Florence NIghtengale | Jul 20, 2009 11:56:54 AM
If it's so efficient, then lets see a detailed outline how ALL of this is going to work: I want to see the bottom line how much this would cost and who exactly is going to pay for this.
Details, please.
Can our Presidentl, along with the physicians and hospitals, have any information on the details?
Posted by: ddg | Jul 20, 2009 12:02:34 PM
I work in a hospital. I remember when it was great if the patient had Medicaid. Now - not so much.
People sucked that dry.
Now they are working on Medicare until that dries up as well.
What is going to change with this new plan that the President wants?
Again, I don't see any details being offered, do you?
Posted by: ddg | Jul 20, 2009 12:06:35 PM
besides the ins company's and Dr's make far to much money off other peoples misery and sickness.
Posted by: vern | Jul 20, 2009 11:51:51 AM
OMG YOU ARE SUCH A VICTIM!
Posted by: NO OBAMA CARE | Jul 20, 2009 12:12:50 PM
maria - this president was broken when he took office. it's just now getting reported. i don't feel obligated to paid for health care for anyone but myself. it's not a "right" but a privilege to have health insurance [of which i pay a huge portion of]. however, it would rather do that then have the government tell me what i can do medically!
Posted by: Bob | Jul 20, 2009 12:21:54 PM
Funny how the obama and the Dems, who "care" so much for the elderly, plan to drastically reduce medical services to the elderly as a major cost saving part of obamacare. If you doubt this, read about Ezekiel Emmanuel. Wake up America before you are no more.
Posted by: R.M. Edaps | Jul 20, 2009 1:18:59 PM
I had to laugh at Raul who's afraid he'll have to wait in line at the ER for an emergency if we get Universal healthcare. He obvipusly has never been to an ER in the USA! LOL. How about 4 hours waiting in the lobby with chest pains, then it was another 3 hours before a doctor ever came into the exam room to order an EKG and other tests. Then another 7 hours before they put me upstairs in the ICU with a heart attack! And this was with BCBS for which I pay over $4oo/mo out of my $1100/mo salary. My employer doesn't offer health insurance. Universal healthcare COULDN'T be any worse for me or millions like me.
Posted by: Judy | Jul 20, 2009 1:25:33 PM
I can not believe all the negative comments about reforming health care in this country. As things stand now it isn't the doctor and patient who decide what treatment/tests a patient will get it is the insurance company. What we need is a non-profit insurance option that people can choose to enroll in instead of the high profit insurance companies.
Posted by: Jeannie | Jul 20, 2009 1:36:36 PM
Wow! Looks like the repubs have recruited some of their naysayers to infiltrate ABC's comment feed. That's too bad; Foxnation hardly has anyone left there to comment about their stories. You guys might want to head back over there. There are far too many people in the same situation as Judy (heart attack victim; I mean health care victim), and their voices need be heard. The sad thing about all of these comments is that sooooo many of my republican friends can't get past the GOP talking points and fear mongering to realize the benefit they would personally reap (as would the country as a whole) if we could get a grip on the health care crisis in the country. They are so eaten up with fear and hate, they can't see they are being used by Big Business to do its marketing for it. And too, where's the GOP alterative?
Posted by: hang | Jul 20, 2009 1:38:17 PM
Wake Up Florence NIghtengale? - The reason the "Congress and the Prez" may not get into the program is they already have a much better free program that you and I pay for. This is also why they never really get around to a program for the rest of us - they don't need one.
'If they are able to stop Obama on this I hope it will be their Waterloo'
Posted by: Wally | Jul 20, 2009 1:42:44 PM
If the Republicans stop Obama to create his Waterloo, they are doing so to destroy Obama. They are not thinking about the 45 million without health care insurance and the underinsured. If something doesn't threaten their the people who oppose health care coverage, then it isn't important. Please think about the 45 million men, women, and children who wait until a problem is really serious and seek health care in the ER. ER care is more expensive than an office call that is beyond the means of many. Hoping the defeat the president is the same as hoping to defeat the country and its citizens. Is only health care to be labeled sociailism? What about public schools, the U.S. mail service, the public libraries, etc. They are not labeled as socialism.
Posted by: Fran Zorn | Jul 20, 2009 2:26:23 PM
I had Cancer over 25 years ago. Then just four years ago my Ins. Co. DROP me because I did not tell them about the Cancer I had. Now there is no Ins. Co. that will cover me and if there is one, I will not be able to pay for the Premiums because of my prior illness that happen over 25 years ago. I had Med-Cal Ins. until just last year. They did not care if I have Cancer over 25 years ago. But I lose that Ins. too because of the California short fall of money.
We do need a Health Ins. for people like me and all the millions of people that have had serious illness in past like me. I know if the Government got involved people like me could be Ins., along with the ability to make the Premiums Payments to who every is the Insurer. They say Competition is the Cornerstone of American Capitalism.
Posted by: gjhardtimes | Jul 20, 2009 3:21:01 PM
To the lady who had to wait seven hours for a heart attack...........boo hoo. Change hospitals or insurance companies or both. If there are no other hospitals or insurance companies in your area then move. It's just common sense people. As for government healthcare, I personally don't want to pay for abortions, or for the healthcare of the crack addicted mother down the street living in government funded housing projects paid for by the good ole taxpayer with 7 kids by 6 different fathers. Oh and did I mention that they also are on welfare paid for by me and food stamps. You ask me to take responsibility for people who have no common sense or work ethic. OOOOOOO.....wait a minute, we should help these people........bull! I think the Katrina disaster and all the people on TV begging for help, just about sums it all up. You would stay somewhere and die begging for help before you turned one dam hand to help yourself. To anybody that voted for Obama, somehow I told you so just doesn't seem to cut it right now.
Posted by: The Wizard | Jul 20, 2009 4:11:20 PM
To the lady who had to wait seven hours for a heart attack...........boo hoo. Change hospitals or insurance companies or both. If there are no other hospitals or insurance companies in your area then move. It's just common sense people. As for government healthcare, I personally don't want to pay for abortions, or for the healthcare of the crack addicted mother down the street living in government funded housing projects paid for by the good ole taxpayer with 7 kids by 6 different fathers. Oh and did I mention that they also are on welfare paid for by me and food stamps. You ask me to take responsibility for people who have no common sense or work ethic. OOOOOOO.....wait a minute, we should help these people........bull! I think the Katrina disaster and all the people on TV begging for help, just about sums it all up. You would stay somewhere and die begging for help before you turned one dam hand to help yourself. To anybody that voted for Obama, somehow I told you so just doesn't seem to cut it right now.
Posted by: The Wizard | Jul 20, 2009 4:11:20 PM
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BRAVO!
Posted by: NO OBAMA CARE | Jul 20, 2009 4:16:41 PM
Why do we live in a country where the opposing political party wishes for the President to FAIL? I want my legislators to govern and develop solutions- something virtually ignored in the Bush years. The Health care reform program might not be ideal or perfect, but I have seen NOTHING from the NOpublicans other than the status quo. Where is their plan for health care for the uninsured? The NOpublican philosophy of "I got mine-screw you" is more and more repulsive to me every day.
Posted by: David VanderJagt | Jul 20, 2009 4:22:45 PM
To: Davis Vanderjagt:
Let me speak for this NOPUBLICAN as you like to call us. Who in the he!@ said we had to have a health plan for the poor uninsured? Where is it written in the constitution? The bill of rights? Where is it guaranteed that people are not going to be poor and not be able to afford healthcare, get sick and die? It's just the way of the world to weed out the weak people. If you live in the United States of America with even one iota of ambition or work ethic you can go from rags to riches in ten years. My poor democratic friend in the housing projects told me the other day that she didn't want to get a job because they might take away her food stamps. The entire government run system of healthcare, welfare, food stamps is designed to keep people in a rut. Why bother getting a job and trying to get ahead in life......I can just sit on my and the government will take care of me. Wait a minute, Obama is going to fix it so I don't have to worry about a sore on my now cause my healthcare will be free also. Where are your brains?
Posted by: The Wizard | Jul 20, 2009 4:34:50 PM
No Nimrod it may be the Waterloo for the Amrican people. This isn't about Obama, it is about healthcare for American citizens. The only ones not seeming to see this is the Republicans. They make it so obvious that they only care about playing politics and just don't care about people needing a good healthcare plan. You republicans do more harm to yourselves everytime you open your mouths.
Posted by: Mars Chemistry | Jul 20, 2009 5:10:32 PM
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