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March 12, 2008 5:54 PM

The Democratic nomination race has been tackling issues of race and gender for more than a year, and now former congresswoman and Democratic vice-presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro is in the fray.

Ferraro told The Daily Breeze, a small California newspaper, “If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.”

Ferraro insists that her comments were not racist and were taken out of context and said on Good Morning America that she is "absolutely not" sorry. But today, Ferraro stepped down from as a member of the Clinton campaign finance committee.

Obama said he didn't think she intended her comments to be racist, but added, "I think they were wrong-headed. I think they're not borne out of our history or by the facts."

Ferraro said that had she been “Gerard Ferraro instead of Geraldine Ferraro” she would not have been her party’s VP nominee.

You can watch Ferraro's interview on Good Morning America by clicking here, and Obama's response to the remarks by clicking here.

What do you think? Were Ferraro comments out of line? Does her experience as a minority candidate on a presidential ticket give her analysis credibility? Should she have stepped down from the Clinton campaign? Share your thoughts in today's Daily Roundtable discussion.

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Her comments were stupid and senseless. To think that a "black" man has an "advantage" in American politcs is like saying a fish has the upperhand over a shark. Most people in this country believed that he didn't have a "prayer" to make it past Iowa or super Tuesday - let alone the nomination.

Posted by: An Adult American Female | Mar 12, 2008 6:08:28 PM

Duh! You think?

More insidiously, it seems to be the latest tactical assault by the Clinton campaign to belittle Obama by using non-merit swipes that are beginning to smell of desperation. That Clinton did not take immediate action to eliminate Ferraro from her campaign says everything.

Hillary's scorched earth approach to campaigning is doing nothing more than giving the election to the Republicans in a year when any democrat should have been able to walk in the front door of the White House.

Posted by: Tosca | Mar 12, 2008 6:10:51 PM

These charges back and forth of racism and sexism will drown what could be an important debate in our country. Ferraro resigning will not change how we all interpret her comments. For some Obama has risen despite his race... to others he has risen assisted by it. The two candidates have a responsibility to talk this through and not sweep it under the rug. One of these candidates could make history... would they want that historic moment to be tainted by the notion that one historically disenfranchised group succeeded at the detriment of another?

Posted by: smartprimate | Mar 12, 2008 6:19:04 PM

Not facts??? You mean that 90% of black voters would be voting for you if you were white?

I think the FACTS speak loud and clear.

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 12, 2008 6:20:48 PM

Obama is quite right about one thing though. The white backlash in Nov. will make it very difficult for him to win the white house.

Blacks are concentrated in states where 80% of whites who make up the majority will vote against him or in states that will be democratic anyways.

The percentage of women who will vote for McCain, who would otherwise have voted democrat in EVERY state will be enough for the Republicans to win.

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 12, 2008 6:24:04 PM

I don't understand what the problem is. Obama has indeed attracted and secured a large population of the black vote because he is black. Enough said about this. I don't feel that Ferraro should have stepped down or that her comments were racist. I am black.

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 12, 2008 6:24:19 PM

I don't understand what the problem is. Obama has indeed attracted and secured a large population of the black vote because he is black. Enough said about this. I don't feel that Ferraro should have stepped down or that her comments were racist. I am black.

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 12, 2008 6:24:27 PM

Why should they use precious time during the campaign to discuss the racial divide in the country? What would that gain anyone, except Clinton? And why stop with race? Why not sit and discuss the gender issue--which despite Mrs. Clintons insistance exists is certainly not very visible from my perspective.

Posted by: Arya | Mar 12, 2008 6:26:00 PM

s.b. -

Maybe you should go back and review the polling numbers for Bill Clinton's candidancy...then come back and share with us all what the black vote was for that White man.

Posted by: What.Say.Me... | Mar 12, 2008 6:26:44 PM

The only thing the Clinton campaign has done is ensure no Democrat will sit at the desk in the oval office. Thanks a lot, Hil! You took an election we couldn't lose and handed it to John McCain.

Posted by: Tika | Mar 12, 2008 6:30:28 PM

Well there goes free speech. Ferraro said, which was NOT reported, she was stepping down because the Obama campaign was using her comments to hurt Hillary. And that she was stepping down in order to speak how she wished in the manner she wished. In no way was she sorry. Thank you, Ferraro I stand with you because this is a pure indication what an Obama presidency would be like. Racism. Bigotry. Loss of freedom of speech and on and on. Perhaps more troubling is the loss of the free press's ability to do anything but cheer for Obama. I am so glad I do not support this man and never will, ever!

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 12, 2008 6:33:23 PM

As I've said before, when we talk about division along racial/gender lines, we're not talking about something that is exclusive to one race, gender, or religious affiliation. We all are naturally inclined to people who we believe share our beliefs, cares, concerns, etc. Of course Blacks are inclined that a Black man would share some of their values, cares, hardships...although this may not be the case in all situations. This is the same reason that the Evangelicals support the Huckabee's of the world, Utah's Mormons rallied together for Romney, etc.

This same idea is the reason an overwhelming majority of Blacks "adore" Bill Clinton. Most Blacks are inclined to believe that he shared some of the same cares that they had. Why? Because he courted the black vote and got that message out there during his campaigning.

I, as a Black person, wouldn't go as far as calling Ferraro a racist. However, I am SURE that she just doesn't get it. To attempt to sell the notion that any Black candidate would be where Barack is...is ridiculous. There were A LOT of Blacks that were very skeptical about his candidancy, especially considering the place the Clintons have traditionally been put in by the Black community. He has been able to overcome that skepticism for many. To attribute his success to the mere fact that he's Black is both ignorant and foolish. If Barack carried 100% of the Black vote and 0% of the White vote, he'd be reading this blog just as we are...at home. So, please, give him a little more credit than just a lucky chance that he was born into the world as a "Black" man.

Posted by: What.Say.Me... | Mar 12, 2008 6:35:42 PM

Remember, Obama needs to gain more percentage of white votes from Dems.... So far, he has not been quite successfully yet..

Reps has begun to build hatred to Obama and classify him as in-experience...

Obama should not play racial card any more, otherwise it will turn the white votes aways, Asian votes aways, latinos votes away....

How can he beat McCain, which is a moderate Rep and is popular among some independents and dems

It was just proved he got only 1/4 white votes in Missip. from Dem...

Posted by: Truth | Mar 12, 2008 6:36:00 PM

Oh, get over it. This isn't an issue of free speech: it is an issue of the consequence.

As a representative of Clinton's campaign, Ferraro was obligated to stay on the ticket's campaign line. She went off the script. Fine. She can say whatever she wants--but it is the inference that she is mouthing the Clinton's belief and the fact that Hillary did not take any significant action to correct that impression that is giving this one legs. It was an easy kill, if Hillary had tried to use the race card....AGAIN.

And for the record, and in simple words so even the brainwashed can understand it: Obama has gracious indicated that he did not believe Ferraro was making racist comments.

Amazingly enough, even though Obama is NOT making a big deal about it, most thinking people realize who is responsible for the racist remarks. Obama has consistently campaigned as an American, not as a black American. That coloring is due solely to Hillary.

Posted by: Tika | Mar 12, 2008 6:40:44 PM

Truth,

I agree that he has to gain more of the White vote. However, saying that he hasn't been successful yet...that's a tough one. He's ahead in any way you look at it (definitely not as much as he probably would like to be), but he is ahead.

And using the white vote from Mississippi - one of the most racially bigoted and divided states today (many of the schools still have segregated proms) is probably not an accurate assessment of the white vote of the nation.

Posted by: What.Say.Me... | Mar 12, 2008 6:43:03 PM

Ohama has to win Penn.. otherwise, he just proves to people again he follows the same patterns: he can just only win red and black states in his Dem primaries/caucuses...

The contrast of skin color will be more bloody when facing Rep in Nov..

Posted by: Truth | Mar 12, 2008 6:45:16 PM

Race and gender have a lot to do with this election, but it is not driven from racism and sexism. We have two capable candidates who happen to be an African American and a woman. We are all kidding ourselves if we keep denying the fact that race and gender have a LOT to do with this race.

Ferraro's comments may have been boneheaded, but I don't at all construe it as racism. Both candidates have given America a new kind of hope: anyone of any color or gender can ascend to the most powerful position in America. Both candidates have been embraced by the American people in large part because we can identify with these candidates in a way we have never been able to before.

People need to not be so sensitive and conclude that every statement in this race is derived from racism and sexism. Samantha Power, Maxim Thorne and Geraldine Ferraro shouldn't have to step down for being passionate in the support of their respective candidates.

Posted by: LOM | Mar 12, 2008 6:49:01 PM

As a Latino, I think Hussein Obama will have a tough time trying to convince the Hillary supporters that he can be the next President. His track record is nimble at best and his involvement with shady characters is evey more scary.

Obama is not fit for my vote.

No mas

Posted by: CJ | Mar 12, 2008 6:49:53 PM

The obama campaign and obama himself have taken Geraldine Ferraro's comments and turned it into a racial slur. Geraldine told the truth about obama. This has turned into a racial issue pushed by the obamamanaics and the media who apparently think they have the second coming in obama.
Obama is a racist, pure and simple. He is a cult leader in the same way that Germany had cult leader by the name of Adolf Hitler. Obama is following Hitler's lead. Look what happened in Germany.
If obama is elected this country will become second to Africa.
The white people of the USA will become by the obama decree less than US citizen. Watch.

Posted by: Lou | Mar 12, 2008 6:53:12 PM

I find it very hard to believe, as Hillary supporters would try to make me believe, that states such as California and Ohio, who went for Hillary, will vote for a Republican nominee in Nov. vs. that of a Demo. nominee. Not after Bush.

Posted by: What.Say.Me... | Mar 12, 2008 6:54:27 PM

Well, CJ, be glad that Obama is black and not brown, because Clinton would be crucifying the brown candidate were he or she were ahead of Hillary. So congratulate yourself on the candidate of your choice, but keep looking over your shoulder, because you and the rest of the Latinos will as marginalized as the blacks if Hillary thought that would help her get elected.

Posted by: Tosca | Mar 12, 2008 6:54:33 PM

If Ferraro's judgments were innocent and obvious, as she claims, it only begs the question. Why is she bringing it up and talking about race? What is her point in doing so? Get to the bottom of that motivation and you'll find that her judgment is indeed out of line and deserves to be booed off the public stage.

For those who are promoting the specious idea that "Obama can't be questioned," uhh, hold on. Ferraro's comments were *not a question*. They were a judgment.

Posted by: Wayne P. | Mar 12, 2008 6:54:50 PM

BTW, I am seeing people talking about how good or bad about Obama or Hillary..

I have not seen any debates about how either of Dems candidates can beat McCain strategily in Nov...

Any hints??

Posted by: Truth | Mar 12, 2008 6:56:47 PM

Okay, I don't think it is appropriate to liken Obama to Hitler. Hitler was indeed a monster with evil intent who tragically murdereds million Jews.

I would agree that before the Obama campaign cries foul about anyone playing the race card, they ought to start in their own backyard.

Posted by: LOM | Mar 12, 2008 6:59:52 PM

I don't even begin to understand how ANYONE can say Obama is the source of this nastiness--again, he has told the WORLD that he doesn't think Ferraro was being racist. He has risen above this mess. It is only the Clinton folsk who are constantly trying to cover him in guilt for something they are solely responsible for.

Posted by: Tosca | Mar 12, 2008 7:01:05 PM

As a Latino, I think Hussein Obama will have a tough time trying to convince the Hillary supporters that he can be the next President. His track record is nimble at best and his involvement with shady characters is evey more scary.

Obama is not fit for my vote.

No mas

Posted by: PeterG | Mar 12, 2008 7:01:18 PM

But its ok for Obama to belong to this church:

"Hillary ain't never been called a n*****. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person."

In his Jan. 13 sermon, Wright said:

"Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain't! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty."

That's ok????

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 12, 2008 7:05:39 PM

You cannot ask Obama to explain anything because he is exempt from all questions, explanations, background, experience, relationships, real estate, religious beliefs, religious relationships, his current/past religion. The lord Obama has risen, please go prone. Let the world stop for a minute's silence. Praise be Obama!

Posted by: Ste789 | Mar 12, 2008 7:07:10 PM

not a single day goes that we do not hear some unethical, immoral or illegal activity by Barack Hussein Obama's. These activities include Obama's repeated drug use even in his thirties to his connection to shady characters like Tony Rezko who has been criminally charged - and now to allegations of homosexuality. Clearly, he is character in a class by himself who has managed to dupe many Americans. The truth is that when his staunch supporters are asked about Obama's accomplishments, they become speechless!

Posted by: Mp576 | Mar 12, 2008 7:07:46 PM

"I don't even begin to understand how ANYONE can say Obama is the source of this nastiness--again, he has told the WORLD that he doesn't think Ferraro was being racist"

Truth is: he might not say it but his chief said it...

Posted by: Truth | Mar 12, 2008 7:08:09 PM

Truth: Either Democrat beats McCain...handily. GWBush has destroyed the Republican party. They can't come close to winning in Nov. Don't worry about McCain.

What I'd like to see both the Democrats doing now is agreeing on that disaster that we have right now in the WH, and blasting it to smithereens.

Posted by: Wayne P. | Mar 12, 2008 7:08:19 PM

The media has stayed clear of Obama for fear that it may antagonize the black population. Until now, even Hillary has played softy with him. However, if Obama becomes the Democratic presidential nominee, he will face an onslaught from Republicans and their allies that will be very different in tone and intensity. Republicans have openly supported Obama in Texas and other states so that they can eliminate Hillary. However, we all know that they will vote for McCain in the November general elections.

Posted by: Phil_VA | Mar 12, 2008 7:08:27 PM

ISLAMIC UPBRINGING?

You may say so what? Anyone can have any name. Think about it. For one, both Barack and Hussein are Arabic names and while they may sound harmless, no father names his son "Hussein" unless the child is a Muslim. There is no record showing Obama officially changed his religion. It's like saying that Osama Bin Laden has named his son "Jesus". According to the Drudge Report, the photo was taken in 2006 showing the Obama as a Somali Elder, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya.
In order to hide his Muslim heritage, Barack Obama has been a member of Chicago's Trinity United Church. Its minister, and Obama's spiritual adviser, is the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Every year, the magazine makes awards in various categories. Last year, it gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said "Truly Epitomized Greatness." That man was no other than the infamous Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan.

Posted by: Phil_VA | Mar 12, 2008 7:09:03 PM

I'M A JUNKIE POTHEAD

In his book "Dreams of My Father", Obama has written extensively about his drug and alcohol use. He called himself as a "Junkie Pothead" who was always out to screw around. "That's where I'd been headed: the final fatal role of the young would be black man," Obama wrote. This was not a single incident or an adolescent indiscretion, rather when Obama was an adult in his twenties and thirties. Mostly he smoked marijuana and drank alcohol, but also used cocaine when he could afford it. Drug use continued through adulthood even when Obama became a state senator in Illinois.

Posted by: Jenna | Mar 12, 2008 7:09:45 PM

The kooks are out of the institute again. My goodness, what a bunch of haters on this list. Too bad you guys don't get it but you are more to be pitied than anything else.

Posted by: Tika | Mar 12, 2008 7:12:15 PM

What a mess as I read all this about Hussein: www*ecertifications*com

Afg_Vet

Posted by: Afg_Vet | Mar 12, 2008 7:12:52 PM

What I really fail to understand at this point is why anyone in the Obama camp or any of his supporters get so riled up over stuff like this. On one hand, they claim that Senator Clinton "will say or do anything to win this election." On the other hand, they start crying foul at the hint of opposition to their candidate.

Why are you surprised when this type of stuff happens? Why do you waste cycles even giving this stuff the time of day when you expect it?

Posted by: LOM | Mar 12, 2008 7:13:15 PM

I mean www*ecertifications*net

Afg_Vet

Posted by: Afg_Vet | Mar 12, 2008 7:13:44 PM

I'm more concerned about corruption by Obama rather than Ferarro. With the corruption trial of one of Obama's longtime friends and supporters in Chicago, Illinois, reform watchdogs say it will reveal the "cesspool" of Illinois politics in which Obama came of age and has said little about in his campaign for president. Read the Detailed Investigative Report by Time Novak - Chicago Sun-Times.
The trial involves federal charges of bribery and extortion against Tony Rezko, a real estate developer who became known in Illinois politics as a behind-the-scenes operator and fixer. Obama's knowledge of the extent of the investigation of Rezko, now under federal indictment, is important because it raises questions about Obama's judgment in approaching a man who was under federal investigation.

Posted by: Afg_Vet | Mar 12, 2008 7:15:06 PM

Well, if you invoke the name Rezko, you need to start looking at how much of his and his partners money have ended up in Clinton's campaign. What's that you say? No fair to call Clinton on her activity? Got it. Double standard again.

Posted by: Tika | Mar 12, 2008 7:21:29 PM

Remember, the battle between Hillary and Obama is not just for two of themselve.. Both have a huge political power behind them... Both of them try to gain more political advantages...

One thing bothering me that Obama claimed himself as a clean politican and fighting for a clean politics...

However, he came from the dirtest political town - Chicago and is backing by the same old Washington politicans, using the same old political tricks...

So how can he still make a change if he could not make a change in his home town for 17 years...

He might have his dream but he has not successfully proved he can make it yet...

I think the biggest mistake he has made is to claim himself too good to be true.....

Posted by: Truth | Mar 12, 2008 7:21:47 PM

8 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OBAMA AND REZKO

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article

Posted by: Afg_Vet | Mar 12, 2008 7:23:26 PM

I know, accused Illinois fixer Antoin "Tony" Rezko is in debt by $50 million and relies on "family" handouts of $7,500 a month to pay monthly costs, according to a previously sealed court transcript reviewed by ABC News.

Posted by: Manny | Mar 12, 2008 7:25:54 PM

I think she was out of line commenting on such a delicate topic. Especially since she is representing the Hillary Clinton Campaign. I'm glad she is stepping down.

Posted by: WomenOnGuard | Mar 12, 2008 7:27:52 PM

Wayne, I agree GWBush has destroyed the Republican party. However, even in 2004, people thought Kerry would beat Bush but failed...

McCain will win National security and foreign policies...McCain will sweep Red states because Rep will fight to death to hold their base...

How can Dems candidates: one is potrayed as old politican and the other is in-experienced, beat McCain, the one with a lot of experiences and less scandals...

More, Rep has carefully watched out the progress of Dems primary and they will easily find any controversial issues to attack Dems... When Dems is been devided, how can they face the unified Rep iron army...

Remember, McCain is a moderate Rep and he can secure enough independent votes to win the battle states...

Posted by: Truth | Mar 12, 2008 7:34:05 PM

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, a national co-chair of Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign, banked at least $7,500 in political donations linked to an indicted Chicago businessman whose past connections to Barack Obama have been used by Clinton to criticize her rival.

And anyone remember Norman Hsu?

Don't go beating up on Obama unless you use the same standards on Clinton. Oh, I forgot. She's been vetted so that means she isn't guilty or responsible for anything anymore.

Posted by: Tika | Mar 12, 2008 7:43:29 PM

Racism, truth or idiocy? Maybe all of the above. To me the important lesson to be reminded of is what happens when the tired old dinnasurs of the Democratic party plays these pathetic division games. Significant portions of the Democratic coalition get turned off and either stay home or vote republican. Thank you Ms. Ferraro for reminding us why the Democrats lost 49 states in 1984.

Posted by: DMR | Mar 12, 2008 7:50:04 PM

s.b. as only 16% of Americans are black and Obama is creaming Hillary in the nominations obviously a lot more than blacks are voting for him, so I don't buy your scare tactics. I'll vote for him and I'd never vote for Hillary, and I am a lifelong supporter of feminism who wants a female president. Black people think he will represent them better than a rich white woman. Maybe that doesn't have as much to do with race as with that rich white woman and her friends believing it's harder to be rich and white in America than black.

Posted by: No b.s. | Mar 12, 2008 8:08:21 PM

So Obama says he doesn't think the comments are racist, huh? And yet, him and his team screamed like banshees about it. Once again, he's trying to play all sides of this race thing. It's pathetic that so many people are buying into this. But I predict this whole thing is going to blow up against him. I'm black and I'm sick of it and I'm betting whites are getting fed up about not being able to open their mouths about this guy. Not only about his race but any criticism is met with screams of foul and the media pushes it to the limit. A huge segment of the American electorate is being disrespected by the media's handling of its hands-off coverage of Obama and Obama's feeble attempts to appear "above the fray" are increasingly coming to light as the charade that it is. Is he so stupid that he doesn't realize that he's being used as well?

Posted by: druggstohr | Mar 12, 2008 8:16:35 PM

HILLARY CLINTON handled this whole matter exquisitely. She is coolheaded and acts in an appropriately calibrated manner. The Flintstone Family level of thinking that comes out of this blog would dictate otherwise. Fortunately none of you are running for President.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 12, 2008 8:35:32 PM

Can we get back to what the candidates say they will do for us, rather than what they are doing to each other?

Obama, get back on message! You've been letting Hillary's campaign define the cycle. What's up with that?

BTW: stop being a lawyer and a technician and go on the record in favor of Michigan and Florida voters having a say. We need to hear it from Mr. Obama, and not all of the reasons why different options won't work according to your surrogates.

Posted by: OhioNative | Mar 12, 2008 8:44:31 PM

I'm a Native American and I find this racist talk to be laughable at best. I've been through the real thing and I don't need some left leaning liberal or hard left liberal to tell me what is or isn't racism. In my world I don't have to endlessly read and reread every statement in the hopes of find racism. I'm not that ridiculous. Racism will find ME. I don't have to go looking for it! Ferraro has done more to assist and support someone like me that all the Obama people on this blog, combined, has ever done to lift a hand to make the world in which I live better. Ferraro did.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 12, 2008 8:53:53 PM

No Gerri comments were not out of line and she is correct it’s time someone spoke up, there is a perception out there that you should not question anything about Obama, if you mention his past there are problems, use his middle name another problem, put a photo of him it has to be of a certain hue if its too dark you are playing the race card, at every turn there is some nonsensical issue over what you question or what you say about Obama. You have to all stay quiet or be blamed for stirring the race pot.

This man is running for the nominee of the POTUS, and every American black, white, blue or brown has a right to question anything that they are not comfortable with or speak about it. For years we have ridicule our own President called him all kind of names from idiot to dumb, he has been made fun of on every talk show, SNL , stand up comedy show, and we all sit back and get a kick out of it.

Now all of a sudden with Obama we must put on kid gloves not to offend him or the AA, nonsense. When AA comic ridicule Bush in their shows do anyone come out and say respect the man and his office? When Obama’s pastor as I saw on a clip tonight on FOX gesticulates a sexual action to show his congregation what Bill did to Monica and now he is doing the same thing to AA did anyone talk about it, was that not insulting and distasteful also? When Obama’s wife said Hillary cannot even hold he man how can she run the WH what that not an offensive statement that needed the same uproar from all the upright citizens of this land?

I am very happy that someone had the guts to call it as they see it, to say enough is enough. Look at all the comments about Hillary and what wrong is she committing? Should she have to take all that humiliation because she is running against a AA for the democrat nominee position, if she was running against Edwards would it be any different or the rhetoric softer? It is disgustful what is going on, and it sure does not show this election in a good light, if this is the tone that one will get once a AA is running for president, why in heavens name would anyone one to experience this kind of abuse again, or why would any voter want to witness what is going on here ever again.

Posted by: SJ | Mar 12, 2008 9:08:37 PM

Ok, lets look at the some of the states Obama has won. Iowa, Kansas, Idaho, Maine,Colorado, Alaska to name a few. These states are HARDLY areas with many black people. Yes there is free speech, but if you are going to use a fourm that Ms. Ferraro can command, then at least have your facts straight.

Posted by: Cme | Mar 12, 2008 9:20:15 PM

Quote: Wayne, I agree GWBush has destroyed the Republican party. However, even in 2004, people thought Kerry would beat Bush but failed...

Truth: In 2004 a large percentage of the populace was still in denial about the phony "war on terror," and were still being manipulated by the fear mongering. I don't think that can work again. Also, Kerry didn't run a very good campaign.

Truth: McCain will win National security and foreign policies...McCain will sweep Red states because Rep will fight to death to hold their base...

But, for every swing voter that McCain may gain, he'll lose two of the Republican base because they think he's too far to the left.

If Obama is able to keep his message on the high road as he wants to do, the Rep. attacks will not get enough traction to overcome the desperate state of the nation which all Americans are well aware of.

Posted by: Wayne | Mar 12, 2008 10:02:27 PM

I agree with Ferraro. It's all about race. And little do the black community know that Obama does give a rat's !@#$ about their votes. Has he even thanked the black community for coming in droves to vote for him by 90+%? Hahah. Take about ungrateful and talk about ignorant blacks who are voting for him. He 's not going to look out for blacks. He has his own agenda. Obama's whole life has been a big tactical deliberate move to one day take over the US. He only joined the senate to run for president. What did he do in senate? NOTHING. He talks about how he didn't vote for Iraq - as if he could vote for it. Even if he could vote for it, he'd conveniently vote "present" or not show up.

His judgment is by far the worst of all the candidates. Common, befriending Rezko and he wants us to believe he can make the better judgment. LOL. Go home.

Posted by: wendy | Mar 12, 2008 10:24:39 PM

News of the day is Keith Olbermann addressing this very issue; see the video or read the transcript here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23601041/

Posted by: Deirdre | Mar 12, 2008 11:03:28 PM

RE: Cokie Roberts...I want to remind CR that not all of us "older women" are supporting Hillary. I'm 69, a feminist Dem. and wouldn't dream of it. Mostly, Bill is her worst character reference -- and I think she proves her lack of integrity by the refusal to confront head-on Ferraro's racism/stupidity. BO fired Powers and spoke out immediately. I am not surprised. HC'll be selling overnights in the Lincoln bedroom if she gets in...CRoberts should stop being so righteous herself....MS

Posted by: margaret | Mar 13, 2008 4:38:48 PM

Ferraro's comments were so much less inflamatory than Obama's pastor's. I resent this false notion that racism can only be discussed by Black pople in America. MLK would say that racism is all our problem. If Ferraro gets such heavy scutiny, so should Rev. Wright.

This story needs to be addressed now, not is September when it is too late.

Posted by: xarite | Mar 14, 2008 5:38:07 PM

I agree with her 100%, she only said what millions of people are thinking but afraid to say because they would be called "Racist". Even the Media is afraid to say anything and are harder on Hillary than Obama!!! With her it's Headines or "Fire the People" ,with him it's "OH WELL"!!!! We ,as a Country, Need Competence Not MORE DIVISION!!!

Posted by: Cynthia Gutfranski | Mar 16, 2008 10:30:51 AM

I agree with her 100%, she only said what millions of people are thinking but afraid to say because they would be called "Racist". Even the Media is afraid to say anything and are harder on Hillary than Obama!!! With her it's Headines or "Fire the People" ,with him it's "OH WELL"!!!! We ,as a Country, Need Competence Not MORE DIVISION!!!

Posted by: Cynthia Gutfranski | Mar 16, 2008 10:30:55 AM

I agree with her 100%, she only said what millions of people are thinking but afraid to say because they would be called "Racist". Even the Media is afraid to say anything and are harder on Hillary than Obama!!! With her it's Headines or "Fire the People" ,with him it's "OH WELL"!!!! We ,as a Country, Need Competence Not MORE DIVISION!!!

Posted by: Cynthia Gutfranski | Mar 16, 2008 10:31:32 AM

That Barack Obama is black cannot be separated from what contributes to his appeal while also creating unease in some voters. Given our country's history, the pull of inspiration and unease is an inherent tension in his candidacy we are all challenged to work through honestly.

I am an American of European and Asian descent. My father, born in 1913 and raised in the South, shared stories of a segregated South. The values that shaped that segregated culture was also felt in Southern California in the 1960s and 1970s. My children still see it but have a stronger desire than even my baby boomer generation to live and prosper beyond this divide. In Obama, I and my children see a better American future and a President that will work with us to make that a reality.

In short, for those of us who admire his intelligence, judgment, experience, and vision, his personal story inspires us to imagine and to work for a future that might heal divisions.

Obama's pastor speaks to the experiences of millions of blacks in America. Wright's words (the inflammatory ones being currently aired) reflect views of many Americans, not because it is "blame America first," but for many, our willingness to see us, Americans, with all its complexity -- the virtues and vices -- of our character and actions. We have a contradictory history that Obama's campaign asks us to look at, reflect upon, and digest. To listen to and to work to reconcile the pain and anger expressed by Wright with the hope and vision for America's future is both Obama's and America's challenge.

I choose to have faith that Obama and America will meet that challenge and blaze and new and more enlightened trail.

Posted by: ML Peterson | Mar 16, 2008 12:24:37 PM

Rev Wright has shown racial hatred is alive and well in America. If the same vitriol were espoused (and it sometimes is) by a muslim cleric, the cleric would be seen as supporting terrorism. R. Wright is supporting terrorism, fomenting bigotry, and is an enabler and purveyor of racial hatred.

America needs to put racism behind, regardless of the source. To achieve this, all people need to recognize racism for what it is: pure stupidity. We learn from experience the individuals who complain most about being lied to are the ones who's veracity is questionable. Be assured those who bring race, gender or religion to the forefront of discussion are in all probability bigoted.

Posted by: yost | Mar 16, 2008 1:31:19 PM

The candidates need to stay on message. Who are these side folks who want their one minute of fame. The goal here is to beat the Republicans. I for one do not want to have another 4 years of Bush policy. A war that we cannot seem to get out of and a economy that is going in the toilet. I for one want the candidate that can truly make this the United States. No more divisions...where nothing gets done and people suffer as a result of politics

Posted by: cdsampson | Mar 16, 2008 2:54:22 PM

The candidates need to stay on message. Who are these side folks who want their one minute of fame. The goal here is to beat the Republicans. I for one do not want to have another 4 years of Bush policy. A war that we cannot seem to get out of and a economy that is going in the toilet. I for one want the candidate that can truly make this the United States. No more divisions...where nothing gets done and people suffer as a result of politics

Posted by: cdsampson | Mar 16, 2008 2:54:31 PM

Ms. Ferraro's comments go much deeper than we are willing to critically consider. As a 38-year-old Black man, I absolutely believe that Ferraro was partially correct. Obama would not be in the same position if he were white. Were he a white man with the EXACT same message, charisma and widespread appeal, he’d be secretly moving chairs into the White House on the weekends.

Posted by: Clarence E. Shepard - Dallas, TX | Mar 16, 2008 3:16:52 PM

I agree with Clarence.

Yost shows the danger of the kind of vitriol Wright expressed: it encourages illiberal responses and further distorts the source and wants of his anger.

An angry critic is NOT the same as a "terrorist." Wright was calling for an awakening to stop our destructive behavior under the false pride of being the only country "blessed" by God. Our torturous actions may well be "damned" by God. He was calling out false pride, not an extremist calling for a holy war. Wright certainly struck more heat than light, but his passion is for justice not revenge nor violence.

Posted by: ML Peterson - Ventura, CA | Mar 16, 2008 9:47:04 PM

The Obama campaign is the one that pushed the press on to Ferraro. Her comments were very politically incorrect and I think wrong. But her comments had nothing to do with the campaign and everything to do with the race baiting that the Obama campaign has indulged in from the start.

They would have never played nationwide if Obama's campaign wasn't such an attack machine. And unfortunately the press have been over utilizing the talking points of Obama's campaign (with the exception of ABC) for their stories.

Well perhaps what comes around goes around. The Wright story and the Rezco story have been there forever. They have just been largely ignored while the media insists on destroying a woman at the tail end of chemo....

I say it is about the truth and judgement.

The truth is that Obama is lying when he says he did not know what Wright said and stood for. His bad judgement with both Rezco and Wright undermines his entire candidacy.

I would feel sorry for him if I didn't firmly believe that his campaign made it about race in South Carolina and also had no hesitation to attack Ferraro in such a disgraceful manner.

Perhaps now Obama understands how Bill felt when he called him a liar in SC and perhaps now he understands that Ferraro is kind of like a favorite aunt to Hillary.

In my opinion this has nothing to do with race or gender.

Posted by: Jackie | Mar 17, 2008 2:51:55 AM

Why speak of Ferraro in light of Rev Wright? Her comments were nothing compared to the vile spilled and explain how this man could be the spirital advisor for 20 years to someone who wants to be president??? And this is OK? But Geraldine is the problem?????????

Something just seems foul here.

Posted by: Aton | Mar 17, 2008 7:49:32 PM

Let's start with facts and then draw conclusions. FACT: Early polls showed Sem Clinton with a significant majority of the black vote. Blacks were reluctant to support him because they felt he did have a chance with white voters and they did want to waste their votes.
FACT: Obama's victory in Iowa proved that narrow-minded way of thinking false. I know many business people and families in Waterloo, Iowa and they are well informed and thinking people. Exit polls have shown that most Obama supporters are the college educated and middle class liberals and independent thinkers.
FACT: Only after news reports and political pundits seemed to lend credibility to his candidacy did black people and others recognized the opportunity to be part of something greater than they dare hope. "THE AUDACITY OF HOPE"!!!
FACT: I feel safe in saying the 95% white population in Iowa did not vote for Sen. Obama because he is black. What many do not realize is that the people of Iowa are not as isolated from the world and world markets as you might think.
I live in Chicago in Sen. Obama's state congressional district and we are very proud of his attempt to run a honorable campaign despite the many attempts to engage him in the petty nasty business of politics. I for one did not want him to run.
*** "BUT ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS THAT GOOD MEN DO NOTHING".

Whoever you vote for you have a responsibility to hold them accountable for their promises and actions. While we are not the "moral police"however; if someone can not conduct their life with moral integrity why would you expect them to conduct the nations business without giving in to greed, lust and all other sins of the flesh.

C'MON NOW PEOPLE11111

Posted by: C'mon Now People | Mar 20, 2008 10:13:14 PM

Richardson you have betrayed the voice of the hispanic community, and you shall reap the rewards of your labor at the polls when you come up for re-election. We need someone who will stand on principles and will not sell-out and betray the voice of the hispanic. Should you become Obama;s VP. you will be just that! But the hispanic vote will go to McCain before it goes to a Malinche!

Posted by: GONZALES | Mar 21, 2008 8:48:01 PM

IT IS WHAT YOU BELIEVE
Did Obama believe his ministers teachings,you must believe he did if Obama had been listning to them for over 20 years.
Did Obama believe his ministers teachings,you must believe he did when Obama whould not wear the american flag that was to honor the pepole who lost there lives on 911.
Did Obama believe his ministers teaching,you must believe he did when Obama whould not salute the american flag when national anthem was being played.
Did Obama believe his ministers teachings,you must believe he did when
Obamaswife stated could now be a proud american.
Do we want a president who not only damns america but uses god.
Do we whantto be known as kkk america.
I am a vietnam vet i am proud to be an american.I am honored to have a flag that i love to salute.

Posted by: Jerry L Simmons | Mar 22, 2008 4:30:55 PM

The Obama camp is hypocritical. They say that the super delegates should vote like people voted but, while Mass. went for Hillary, I have yet to hear the two senators and the govenor say that they will vote as their people did!!! As for race, any comment from the Clinton campaign is spun as being racist, even saying that 90+ percent of the black voters in a state voted for Obama is being racist!! What is voting that way, non-racist???? What did his wife mean and his pastor mean??

Posted by: John Gulsby | Mar 23, 2008 12:23:39 PM

Sorry, Im sick of Obama making STAGED speeches which are inconsistent with his own campaign tactics. Listen not to words and snippets but look to the history. Is this ONLY history for pro Obama campaign people The same people who smeared Bill Clinton as racist by taking SNIPPETS out of context and ignoring his history?

Why is everyone soable to accept hyper sensitivity for comments regarding Obama and at the same time making blasphemous comments and sexist remarks toward Ms. Clinton.

Mr Obama is not about change. He is YET ANOTHER politician who cares more about winning than anything. He is arrogant, often an opportunist. No, not the second coming and not a saint. He rarely answers a direct question and instead stages speeches, no press conferences, no on the spot answers. Just staged events. Sorry, Im tired of staging. Mr Bush did that and another imperial soul above answering real questions is not change.

Nor is a man refusing to count votes UNLESS he can win that is.

Dissing two states is just stupid.
And caucuses are the least democratic vehicle. They never insured all votes count, just the opposite, back room dirty politics and you call this change??????

Im a democrat and disgusted.

Posted by: Jaime | Mar 24, 2008 8:52:55 PM

George,

You can rationalize your questioning during the debate all you want but many significant things happened prior to the latest democratic debate which you completely ignored! Rather you and Charlie Gibson showed your true colors! I didn't hear any discussion about unemployment increasing to 5.1%, oil barrel prices beyond $15 per gallon, white house conversations about torture, 81% feel this country headed in the wrong direction, more than 70% feel we are not better off then when Bush took office, and on and on and on..
SHAME ON YOU!!!!

JOE

Posted by: joe | Apr 18, 2008 5:04:04 PM

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