Womenomics
ABC News' Claire Shipman and the BBC's Katty Kay on women, work and what it really means to "have it all."
Claire Shipman is Good Morning America's Senior National Correspondent. She covers everything from politics to international affairs to family issues.
Katty Kay covers American politics and society for the BBC. She can be seen in the US on BBC America.
Claire and Katty have a new book called Womenomics. For more information visit the web site www.womenomics.com
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Equal pay for men??
September 23, 2008 7:38 AM
I was fascinated by a new study in the September issue of the Journal of Applied Psychology. Yes, we all knew that on average men earn more than women in the same jobs. But it also turns out that there's a pay difference among MEN based on their attitudes toward gender! Men who have more traditional attitudes about family and women in the workplace earn more than men with more "liberal" or "modern" attitudes. And there's an pay/attitude connection among women too! Women with a "traditional" attitude about gender roles earn the least! (Clearly not as surprising.) The differences are big. Men wth traditional attidudes earn almost 12 thousand dollars a year more than the men with more egalitarian views, and 14 thousand a year more than the women with traditional attitudes. Again...same sorts of jobs with same levels of education and putting in the same number of hours per week.
The study didn't offer any suggestion as to why there's this gap--especially among men. The men/women gap has long been studied--and is usually attributed to everything from sexism at higher levels to women's reluctance to demand a decent salary at the start of their career--therefore compounding their disadvantage as the years go on. But among men?? I'm puzzled. Is it that the men who think about gender roles in society in a more traditional fashion are more demanding in their salary negotiations? Are they more confident? Do they give off a vibe that they're worth more?
Thoughts???
Equal pay is one of the campaingn issues the Obama team is using now to try to rally women. His campaign points out he supports equal pay legislation--while McCain does not. Maybe they should both start campaigning on equal pay for MEN of ALL attitudes!!! Might get voters' attention!
Claire
September 23, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (9)
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I noticed the article said it balanced the people in the study by education, but did it also take age into account? Age will not perfectly correlate with education of course, and previous generations may be more "traditional" in their gender role views and also make more money (because they've been working longer). If they didn't take age into account, I'm not sure what use this research is.
Posted by: Keith | Sep 23, 2008 8:00:41 AM
This is news to me
Posted by: Keith T.Gilbert | Sep 23, 2008 8:07:33 AM
Men has always been favored in the job market. They get the higher paying jobs even when a female is more qualified; they get better benefits because they are considered "head of household"; and they get more credit for the work that women do...as they are:
It is a mans' world...
Posted by: disillusioned | Sep 23, 2008 8:20:38 AM
Would not be surprised at all if you overlayed race on top of the attitudes presented in the study and you found a few trends there too...
Posted by: Alejandra | Sep 23, 2008 9:18:41 AM
I watched one of the researchers discuss this on Fox News the other night. I think it's surprising to a lot of people. However, as a woman who worked in one of the most sexist industries - agribusiness - this is absolutely no surprise. I lived it! Men are assumed to need more money to provide for their family or future family. Women are assumed to already have a man paying their bills. Therefore, management usually doesn't think women should be paid as much as men for similar jobs.
Posted by: No News to Me | Sep 24, 2008 2:27:23 PM
How would equal pay legislation work? Talk about all you want about totally equal jobs or experience, but the fact remains that no two jobs are identical and no two people are identical. Someone will have different skill sets that another because of family life, hobbies or whatever. There is always a reason to justify paying someone more than someone else. This type of legislation sounds like more bureaucracy that won't really work and will in fact make people more resentful.
Posted by: Jennifer | Sep 26, 2008 2:51:11 PM
Equal pay legislation has been the law for years.
Women and men get paid the same for the same job.
It has been that way for at least twenty years.
Posted by: NickAtNight | Oct 3, 2008 9:52:57 PM
When I first hired in with DuPont in the early '80's, women engineer new hires were getting paid slightly more than male engineering new hires.
However, if you took the companies average pay for men and women, it appeared that women made less because the company was so top heavy with engineers who had worked there for twenty or thirty years.
Pay increased in the company with time and grade.
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