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Actress Mirren Makes Controversial Rape Comments

November 18, 2008 8:40 AM

By Emily Wither, ABC News London

Actress Dame Helen Mirren, famously known for playing the queen, is up to mischief again. No stranger to controversy, she once said she'd been raped but never bothered to report it. She’s now lashed out at female jurors in rape cases for believing the victims ask for it. 

In an interview with the Sunday Times magazine, the Oscar-winning actress said that "women go against women" in court, blaming it on "sexual jealously."

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Dame Helen said during the interview that when it came to rape cases, the defense wants to select as many women as it can for the jury.  "Other women on a rape case would say she was asking it."

During the interview Dame Helen appeared to shift from loving women to loathing them in just a matter of seconds. She declared her love for women over men before going on to say that she’d prefer to be interviewed by male journalists because when it comes to females, she knows "there  is a little stiletto knife hidden behind the back. "

Mirren used the rape trial as an example when discussing female competitiveness, but her opinion on the topic could say a lot more about her own experiences. In an earlier interview with GQ magazine,  Mirren said she’d been date raped  "a couple of times, but not with excessive violence." 

At the time,  she angered rape victim advocates for saying there wasn’t much point reporting  rape  to the police because it was "a tricky area." Campaigners have called her latest comments ‘incredibly destructive’ and they're concerned it may have an effect on victims coming forward.

But some believe Helen has just brought to light some uncomfortable home truths. Speaking to Sky News, Sandra McNeill of the Campaign to End Rape said it was "a well-known fact" that lawyers representing rapists try to get a female-dominated jury.

Polls taken on the subject of rape have highlighted that many believe a victim has to take responsibility for being attacked if they are drunk or wear revealing clothing. 

However, Britain’s solicitor general, Vera Baird, has accused Mirren of being ignorant, swiftly pointing out that juries are selected at random in the United Kingdom.

It looks like whether onscreen or off, the 63-year-old national treasure has yet again caused quite a stir. ABC News tried to contact Mirren’s rep, but they were unavailable for comment.

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She is so right! Women are vindictive, especially toward other women, they will be the first in line to kick you when you're down or when your back is turned. If you didn't catch a glimpse of that in this past election season then you must be blind.

Posted by: samhiguchi | Nov 18, 2008 9:55:48 AM

I had been a Rape Crisis victim advocate
back in the late 70s-early 80s. Attitudes then among law enforcement officers were of the "she asked for it" variety and I had cause to speak my mind to more than one investigating officer, but those attitudes in my city have changed since then, especially so when one particular victim escaped her captor, running naked across a vacant lot to a neighbor's house while bleeding profusely vaginally because her perpetrator had used a baseball bat to rape her with, tearing the vaginal wall between the vagina and rectum in
the process. He was apprehended, masturbating in his sleep in a bloody bed in his home. The investigating officer said on the witness stand that he'd never seen anything so horrible, testifying to seeing the victims blood spattered throughout the house. At one time I had to write up a female GYN doctor on call who refused to examine let alone treat another victim who'd been raped in her own home. I had to have the victim transported to another hospital--at city expense in that incident. It doesn't make any difference if a woman/girl chooses to wear provocative clothing, or gets picked up in a bar; NO ONE, female OR male, "asks for" or "deserves" to be raped.

Posted by: nanameow | Nov 18, 2008 10:07:26 AM

She's probably right.

Posted by: hang | Nov 18, 2008 10:09:16 AM

I love Helen Mirren. She's the hottest 63-year old that ever lived. She can say whatever she wants. Who cares? She's hot.

Posted by: Kevin | Nov 18, 2008 10:15:35 AM

She is right. I've experienced all of the above.

Posted by: Ute | Nov 18, 2008 12:55:46 PM

Women can be some of the most vicious creatures on the planet depending on the circumstances. Call it ancient instincts to protect, but that protection can turn to an attack when and if their own sense of values, modesty and compassion are called into question. mostly this happens on an emotional level and no matter how enlightened we like to think we are, our own experiences can end up tripping us up at a crucial time, turning compassion into contempt. No woman ever -asks- to be assaulted, but fear and guilt are powerful motivators.

Posted by: Jaxitty | Nov 18, 2008 12:55:52 PM

Helen is correct. As a woman, I know how other women can be real bitches to each other. So much for sisterhood!

Posted by: Lisa Again | Nov 18, 2008 12:56:06 PM

She's right. Women are vicious towards one another. Men let things roll off their back. Women never forget nor forgive.

Posted by: Kathy | Nov 18, 2008 12:56:23 PM

She is right! Not only will women blame other women, they will blame female children. In October, 2008, a witness told police that Aurelia Gallardo was yelling at three children at the bus stop. He also told police, according to the affidavit, that he saw Gallardo violently grab her 4-year old daughter by her arm, lifted her in the air while yelling things like “You’re dead to me” and “You are a slut” before she threw the child into the path of an oncoming car which thankfully avoided hitting the child. http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2008/10/30/mom_arrested_after_throwing_4y.html

Posted by: Me | Nov 18, 2008 1:12:51 PM

I too agree with her comments about women being nasty to each other - don't know why - its just so dispicable. I too find it easier to work with men - most of the time they are easier to work with and there is no bitchiness.

Posted by: Nadine | Nov 18, 2008 1:14:24 PM

I forgot to add, I have a feeling that Mom caught her boyfriend doing something untoward with her daughter, and took it out on her.

Posted by: Me | Nov 18, 2008 1:14:44 PM

Helen is totally the hottest MILF on the planet - I agree totally with whatever comes out of her mouth

Posted by: Ohioliberal | Nov 18, 2008 1:20:23 PM

As an Executive Admin, I have to say I prefer supporting men over women. For some reason it has been my experience that women in places of authority seem to feel they have to be nasty and condescending to everyone in order to gain the respect of their peers. I think it's ludicrous. You can be a woman of incredible power and feminine at the same time. In fact, I believe that in our femininity is where our greatest power and strength comes from and the gentlemen I support respect me tremendously. Ladies, you don't need to be one of the boys to play with them.

Posted by: quiltedjeans | Nov 18, 2008 1:33:16 PM

Rape is not about provocativeness or sensual allure: it is an extreme form of BULLYING. (Might be why cops are so quick to blame the victim: they often have a bully mindset themselves.)

Consider the parallels: the school-age bully forces a victim to turn over money or other property as "payment" for not being physically molested, but when confronted by authority, the bully will often insist that the victim freely "gave" the money or property or that he or she had some other basis of "right" to the property.

In rape, much the same exchange occurs, but with the "property" being the body of the victim. Yet when confronted by authority, the rapist will often insist that exchange was "consensual" or that the victim "wanted it".

At root, both behaviors stem from the same sense that it is somehow okay to coerce, threaten or force another person into conduct he or she does not wish to participate in - and then claim that the victim really did consent. And unfortunately, we actually TEACH this behavior in our schools: even teachers and school administrators often resort to forms of bullying as a means of enforcing student behavior. The lesson carries over into adult life, and affects both criminal behavior such as rape - and also law enforcement in the form of coercive investigation and interrogation techniques and ultimately actual physical brutality by police officers. Until we deal with the root issue - that "no" really means "NO!", that people do not have the right to force or coerce others to do things against their will, and that authority does not necessarily grant privilege - then we will continue to incur this victimization of our children and our women and men.

Posted by: Jordan | Nov 18, 2008 1:35:25 PM

The concept of "sisterhood" between women has always made me laugh. Over the years, I've seen incredibly vicious, underhanded behavior on the part of women towards other women but nothing comparable in the male arena. There are probably many good evolutionary and social reasons for this -- for millennia, women were forced to operate with rather ruthless underhandedness in order to protect their own interests and obtain what little power and what few advantages they could -- but given the choice, I'd far prefer to work with a group of men than a group of women.

Posted by: Eleonora27 | Nov 18, 2008 1:35:57 PM

There is no solidarity among females. It's sad.

Posted by: Gloria Steinem Fan | Nov 18, 2008 1:41:43 PM

um, ohioliberal, Mirren isn't a MILF...she's pretty much a Granny...

Posted by: Jazz | Nov 18, 2008 1:42:21 PM

Were the Duke Lacrosse players 'asking' for it when they were falsely accused? Was Kobe Bryant 'asking' for it when he was falsely accused? Why doesn't ABCNEWS do a story on the apparently multiple of people who are falsely accused of this crime, some of them getting out of prison decades later after being pardoned?

Posted by: Eric | Nov 18, 2008 1:55:14 PM

Anyone know why women turn on each other?
We think its because women are not as highly evolved as men. They might be still fighting over the male neanderthal that can bring in the most mastadon.
Then what about the women who refuse to turn on other women, who won't use the word b!t@h?
It seems lower class women and higher class women support each other. Gotta watch out for those middles!!!!

Posted by: Kate | Nov 18, 2008 1:56:14 PM

Kevin: Only a complete a redneck moron would make a statement like that.

Posted by: Russell | Nov 18, 2008 2:03:17 PM

Who said if a women was in charge, there would be no wars?

Maybe not!

Posted by: TIM Scott | Nov 18, 2008 2:07:48 PM

You have got to be kidding me, these posts are ridiculous. Women not as 'evolved' as men? Please - women are the stronghold of our planet. Any guy that has a woman in their place of residence KNOWS who runs the place. Women. I love women and women love women.

Posted by: OMG | Nov 18, 2008 2:09:18 PM

Just because the Lacrosse team wasn't charged doesn't mean they were innocent. And just because kobe settled before the trial doesn't mean he wasn't guilty!

Posted by: Laurie | Nov 18, 2008 2:12:04 PM

Kevin you are so right . In divorce situations it happens all the time. I have been a victim of proven to be ( in court) and family therapists false accusations regarding child.

It has destroyed my career ( I was an executive) left me unemployed and with regular chest pains and stress related panic attacks.

Easy for Mirren and man haters like her to brand all men as black men like me used to be branded and still are as lazy.

Posted by: jon | Nov 18, 2008 2:15:05 PM

Eric, Don't forget about the millions generated by dragging all men through the dirt. Funding, funding, funding.

Posted by: Reflect08 | Nov 18, 2008 2:16:40 PM

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