World View

Gayness is a Abnormal Sexual Behavior.

If you legalize one Abnormal Sexual Behavior you will have to legalize them all Abnormal Sexual Behavior.

who cares? Why is it news what the Vatican supports or opposses? Its not the 1500s and we don't live in Saudi Arabia so religous leadership does not govern our public policy or that of other civilized nations. If it did, I assume the criminal penalty for adultery would be death and the punishment for wearing a cotton/poly blend would be death by stoning.

Gay = sick = abnormal = perversion = WHITE MAN'S DISEASE.

Gayness is no more abnormal than a birthmark.

The Vatican apparently only supports child molestation for priests.

The love of David and jonathan is celebrated in 1 Samuel. People who have a problem with those who are born gay are simply bigots. The Catholic Church is responsible for more death and human suffering than any institution in the history of the world, with the possible exception of the nazis.

Gayness is NOT abnormal.

Wearing polyester and eating bacon or clams are abominations and abnormal, according to the Old Testament.

Steve, you forgot about the modern wars. Going back to the US, soviet union, and other countries that did genocide.

You have to decide if gay is a lifestyle or born that way. It is the same decision who decides if a fetus can become a person or dies a blob of unwanted cells.

Aren't most priests gay?

Aren't we living in Satan's World????

most priests are gay ... and being catholic is punishment enough for them!

Reilly:
Always remember, it is very easy to judge the mistakes of others and difficult to recognize our own mistakes.

The fact that the Catholic Church has any representation in the UN is a mystry to me. What would some group that lives in the 14th Century have anything defensible to say. They are still waiting for the next Crusade to bring them back to power. And they are such a good force in the world just look at all they did for the US during WWII. I guess the Vacitacn is real hip with the Isalmist and their extreme hatred. What a great partnership. For evil in the world. Gays are born gay.

The love of David and jonathan is celebrated in 1 Samuel.******* The love of David and Jonathan? King David? The same David with a veritable harem of wives? Perhaps he was bi, but I think it more likely that when the bible speaks of love in this case it the love of fast friends or brothers, rather than a sexual attraction. Regardless though I do agree that homesexuals should not be discriminated against. However, I don't think anyone should be discriminated against. Many who are rabidly for gay rights hate some other group or type and are just like those they decry. True acceptance and tolerance is rare.

Who cares what the vatican says?

Most priests are deeply closeted homosexuals. They support discrimination against people who are openly gay purely out of spite and envy.

Reilly made the best comment here. Francisco, what does that have to do with living in Satan's world? I am guessing that Reilly will or should admit he is a failure like all the rest of us sinners.

Gays have a hormonal disorder.Why would someone CHOOSE to be something that other people will kill them for being? As far as the catholic church goes,who cares what they think? They are responsible for more deaths & prosecutions in the past then any other religion.At one time,their priests could legally kill those who didn't want to be catholic.Have they ever aplogized to the world for such past behavior? NO!

I believe that gayness can be a choice if you are in prison, but it is probably caused by in-utero hormonal imbalances. It is a birth defect. Which team is a hermaphrodite supposed to bat for? Most priests are probably gay, and to think I am Catholic an still go to church in light of all this stupidity. The church needs to champion something else for a change. Maybe healthy eating habits or fiscal responsibility or humility in foreign policy. Just take off where Ron Paul has taken the dialogue.

First the bigots claim homosexuality is "abnormal" and "unnatural", then when it's pointed out to them that many animals in the wild occasionally do it, the bigots turn round and say it's animal-like and therefore bad. It's either one or the other though. It can't be unnatural AND animal-like!

Oh that’s right, these superstitious wacko's think the physical world is controlled by a "god" with a load of irrational and contradictory rules which just happen to suit the Pope who invented them!

I hate how people polarize homosexuality into an absurd presumption that people are either totally "gay" or totally "straight". In realtiy everyone is bisexual, but society forces people to act completely one way or the other.

You only have to look back to Ancient Greece before European society started being oppressed by Abrahamic religions to realize everyone is inherentely bisexual.

jenn thanks for comment. 1 samueal chapt 18 jonathan loved david as he loved his own soul. they formed a covenant celebrating that love. You go to your best friend and tell him or her you love them as you love your own soul and you want to form a covenant celebrating that love. Maybe its just me but for two guys that's pretty intense...

Steve- I actually went home last night and read Samuel and I must say it isn't clear one way or another. I definitely see how some might see there relationship as that of lovers due to one mention of a kiss and the several mentions of the covenant and the loving of another and one loves ones own soul. Stop and think though. Many non-western cultures kiss for reasons other than sexual expression. And true friends do love one another as much as they love there own self or soul. A true friend loves you and supports you through all the times of your life. Stop being so Western as to think love is at all interchangable with sex and sexual feeling. Love is much more than mere sex. We do not think this way in the West and as such can easily mistake such things. I must say that as in so many cases I can find no clear interpretation of this, however, I find my explaination equaly likely.

One addition, and I do apoligize for the bad manners of posting twice, to my belief that Jonathon and David's love was likely not sexual and more that of true friends and brothers. They lived in a time of war and threat to not only their own lives but lives of their entire people. I do not know how many soldiers you know, but I come from a military family and married a military man who served in the Air force. The bonds of those who fight together and rely on one another for survival are deep and lasting. These bonds are a great as love and, often, are called love by these men who will seek each other out and support each other for life, far beyond the time of service that drew them together. Are there homosexuals in the miliary? Assuredly. However these bonds need not neccessarily be homosexual to be called love.

Hypocrites! Walk around the Vatican and all you can see are naked statues (mostly of young men). Priests that molest children are quietly transferred from place to place molesting hundreds of children as they move around. How many priests are brought to book for their crimes against children? Oh, you can SUE them, but you won't find too many locked away in jail. HYPOCRITES!!!

what a bunch of homophobic, xenophobic racists a lot of you people are. get your own house in order before you trash other people. God just might be about love and compassion, in which case you are in very serious trouble. what would Jesus think of your hateful, racist trash. so disappointing. pathetic.