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'We Will Avenge You Palestine'
January 02, 2009 11:07 AM
By LAMA HASAN, ABC News Cairo
Hundreds of police officers lined the streets outside many of the mosques in Cairo, Egypt, in anticipation of pro-Palestinian protests. We went to the Al Azhar mosque, the capital's oldest mosque and Islam's intellectual center. We could only get as close as the front gate before we were stopped by an officer and told to leave.
It was a similar scene at a mosque nearby: riot police, police vans and officers. The city is swarming with them at the moment with many more checkpoints than usual. And once again we were told to leave.
A crowd of about 100 protesters, including women, managed to begin a small demo. People in this country are usually careful about what they say about the government in public but today their voices were loud and clear -- "watch the terrorism in this country," they said, referring to the Egyptian police. They were also chanting pro-Hamas slogans and saying, "With our blood, with our souls, we will avenge you Palestine." But as soon as the demonstration started, riot police moved in and broke it up, arresting people and putting them in vans.
The Egyptian government is very careful about scenes like these and doesn't want them to be seen by the outside world. Other Arab countries have been putting pressure on Egypt to do more to help the Palestinians by fully opening the Rafah border crossing. They say failing to do so means Egypt is aiding Israel in its offensive in Gaza.
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I believe I will take a deep breath and sigh
if I see a bright light in the eastern sky.
Alas, the tribes will be sorted in the dust.
The stains infused in a story of disgust.
Posted by: tendergroins | Jan 3, 2009 7:48:24 AM
It never ceases to amaze me that people can, well I assume they are people, condemn Israel for killing Palestinian citizens through collateral damage in retaliation against hard targets when Palestinian citizens have, for years, failed to condemn the killing of Israeli citizens with cowardly rocket attacks targeted at Israeli citizens by sitting by and allowing them to be launched from within Palestine. Israel is even calling in their strikes to give people, too stupid or arrogant to leave, time to vacate. When a people can send their sons against citizens as human bombs I stop feeling any compassion for their cause. They have lost their humanity in my eyes. You reap what you sow.
Posted by: Joseph Smith | Jan 3, 2009 11:27:59 AM
The government of Israel is still acting as victims of the holocaust. The act of a surviving people has now become a people that mimic the horrors that were perpetrated against them. They are now no better then the nazi germans who followed Hitler. They seem fear driven with there walled settlements and the evidence of keeping the Palestinian people down beneath them, not allowing them to be treated as equals. US support of Israel is shameful. We have supplied Israel with the weapons and the means to keep down the Palestinian people. Would our own Jewish people support Israel? Is this really God's plan? Terrorism vs peace and compassion. I want no part of that God.
Posted by: braith morgan | Jan 3, 2009 11:57:20 AM
The Arabs need to overthrow these dictatorships that pretend to care for the Palestinians. They then need to use oil as a bargaining chip to force the US to be more equitable on the Israeli-Palestinian issue. Israel continues to land grab and build settlements while forcing the Palestinians to exist on shrinking amounts of land. To me this is the real pressing issue and quite frankly an act of terrorism. The world is beginning to see this quite clearly. I myself used to bye all of the Israeli lobby talking points which are pretty much lockstep with the neoconservative movement. No longer....
Posted by: Ben Straub | Jan 3, 2009 12:09:11 PM
Prediction...After Israel eliminates Hamas from their back yard they will bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. Iran will sink a few oil tankers; kill servicemen in Iraq and bomb Israel and Jordon. US will be forced into another major war with Iran to defend the above. Oil will skyrocket; US will sink into another great depression. This ball starts rolling before the inauguration. Be ready!
Posted by: Hummm... | Jan 3, 2009 12:25:00 PM
I cannot understand how the western media continues to portray Israel as only 'defending itself' against agression, when in reality the obscene number of casualties rest on the palestinian side. We can all see the numbers spear for themselves. When will people stand up to Israeli monstrosities and show them how ugly they have become?
They started the nation of Israel on the basis of peace and providing a homeland for the Jewish people. If only their forefathers could see them now. They would be so ashamed and disturbed.
Posted by: Alia | Jan 3, 2009 12:27:43 PM
To all the people who sleep safely in their beds at night and have the audacity to criticize the Israeli government, this is for you:
None of you spoke in the past 8 years when rockets and bombs fell in southern Israeli cities, causing death and destruction without any provocation on our part.
What you need to understand are two things-
First of all, there is no functioning government in Gaza. The Hamas took over (in a military coup!) and they are running the show. The Hamas, in case you didn't know, is a terror organization. Just like Al-kaida and Hezbollah. Israel is dealing with terror organizations all through its borders. Not with governments. And not with civilians. We have nothing against the Palestinians. Only the terrorists.
The second thing you need to know is that the Hamas is a very cynical organization which uses innocent women and children to fight Israel. They launch their missals from civilian's houses, not from open fields or military camps, and when the Israeli army wants to destroy those missals launchers- sometimes innocent people die.
They stash weapons; bombs etc. in hospitals, mosques, civil houses and schools exactly for this reason- they know that the Israeli army will not bomb those places. Over the years, they have dig tunnels between Egypt and Gaza to smuggle everything, including weapons which is being used against us.
The Israeli army has such advanced technologies they can surgically hit those places. And that is exactly what we are doing. The manipulations in the media, done by the Arabs are ridicules, at best.
Ask yourself- what would you do if your life was constantly under threat? Look at the map. Maybe that will help you grasp our geographic situation.
The purpose of the Israeli army is to defend. Not attack.
So next time you think about how miserable and poor the Palestinians are, and how powerful and evil the Israelis are- think again. Israel has left Gaza more than 3 years ago- their chaos and fights among themselves are not our responsibility.
(Written by a left-wing Israeli who thinks terror should not win anywhere in the world).
Posted by: shira | Jan 3, 2009 1:14:40 PM
Avenge the terrorist Palestinians ? How stupid is that ? They brought all this on themselves, so now they're getting what's coming to them. Push them all into the sea, and be done with it, once and for all. Otherwise, somebody needs to teach them how to work and play well, with others.
Posted by: luke_4u | Jan 3, 2009 1:39:37 PM
shira - Terrorism no where in the world? Israel has been committing terror for decades with checkpoints and settlement construction.
Posted by: Ben Straub | Jan 3, 2009 1:44:21 PM
Does anyone ever stop and ask themselves why so many people hate Jews so much?? Maybe the Jewish people need to take a good hard look at themselves and figure out what they've been doing wrong. Nobody risks their lives just because someone is a different religion; Muslims and Christians live peacefully side by side in many Arab countries without a problem. So what is it with Jewish people???? Example: I had a college roommate who was Orthodox Jewish and I got along with her great until she turned out to be one of the nastiest people I have ever met... not a good impression to make!
Posted by: fsj2101 | Jan 3, 2009 1:49:26 PM
shira: what, the rockets that killed 8 people? I'm sorry, but a couple homemade rockets that killed 8 people is incomparable to 420 and rising. And you say ask yourself what you would do if your life is under threat??? Israel has all the Palestinians crowded into a tiny strip of land with little access to food and water, cutting them off from the world! If I were Palestinian I would fight to my death too! Israel is a terrorist, genocidal state.
Posted by: fsj2101 | Jan 3, 2009 1:52:19 PM
I totally agree with braith morgan and Ben straub.
Posted by: fsj2101 | Jan 3, 2009 1:53:52 PM
I hope Israel suffers heavily in this latest incursion. I always root for the underdog and against the bully.
Posted by: Huh | Jan 3, 2009 1:55:34 PM
THOU SHALL NOT KILL, PERIOD.
All followers of the three (3) great Abrahamic religions, Judaism,
Christianity and Islam believe in the Ten (10) Commandments. In our humble
opinion, if anyone killed another innocent human being or himself, he is neither
a Jew, nor a Christian, nor a Muslim, because he disobeyed one of the
most important Commandments of Almighty God (Allah): Thou Shall Not Kill.
……..
Given below are some of the verses from the Holy Qur’an in support
thereof, referring to the number of Surah (Chapter) first followed by
the number of Ayah (Verse), later (from an English translation of the
Holy Qur’an by Mr. Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall).
Yet ye (Children of Israel) it is who slay each other and drive out a
party of your people from their homes, supporting one another against
them by sin and transgression, and if they came to you as captives ye
would ransom them, whereas their expulsion was itself unlawful for you.
Believe ye in part of the Scripture and disbelieve ye in part thereof?
(2:85)
Lo! those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah (God Almighty), and
slay the Prophets wrongfully, and slay those of mankind who enjoin
equity: announce them a painful doom. (3:21)
O ye who believe! eat not up your property among yourselves in
vanities: but let there be amongst you traffic and trade by mutual good-will:
nor kill (or destroy) yourselves (commit suicide): for verily Allah hath
been to you Most Merciful. (4:29)
Never should a believer kill a believer; but (if it so happens) by
mistake (compensation is due): if one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained
that he should free a believing slave and pay compensation to the
deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to
a people at war with you and he was a believer, the freeing of a
believing slave (is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have a
treaty of mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family
and a believing slave be freed. For those who find this beyond their
means (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance
to Allah: for Allah hath all knowledge and all wisdom. (4:92)
If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to
abide therein (for ever): and the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him
and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him. (4:93)
For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever
killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the
earth, it shall be as if be had
killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if
he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of
old with clear proofs (of Allah's sovereignty), but afterwards lo!
many of them became prodigals in the earth. (5:32)
They are losers who besottedly have slain their children without
knowledge, and have forbidden that which Allah bestowed upon them, inventing
a lie against Allah. They indeed have gone astray and are not guided.
(6:140)
Say: "Come I will rehearse what Allah hath (really) prohibited you
from": join not anything as equal with Him; be good to your parents: kill
not your children on a plea of want; We provide sustenance for you and
for them; come not nigh to shameful deeds whether open or secret; take
not life which Allah hath made sacred except by way of justice and law:
thus doth He command you that ye may learn wisdom. (6:151)
O Prophet! when believing women come to thee to take the oath of fealty
to thee that they will not associate in worship any other thing
whatever with Allah, that they will not steal, that they will not commit
adultery (or fornication), that they will not kill their children, that
they will not utter slander intentionally forging falsehood, and that they
will not disobey thee in any just matter then do thou receive their
fealty and pray to Allah for the forgiveness (of their sins): for Allah
is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful. (60:12)
Kill not your children for fear of want: We shall provide sustenance
for them as well as for you: verily the killing of them is a great sin.
(17:31)
And slay not the life which Allah hath forbidden save with right. Whoso
is slain wrongfully, We have given power unto his heir, but let him
not commit excess in slaying. Lo! he will be helped. (17:33)
And those who cry not unto any other god along with Allah, nor take the
life which Allah hath forbidden save in (course of) justice, nor
commit adultery and whoso doeth this shall pay the penalty; (25:68)
Posted by: Qazi | Jan 3, 2009 2:21:40 PM
israel is evil and should be destroyed.enough of them starting trouble the u.s.a. has to fix.
Posted by: T | Jan 3, 2009 2:58:21 PM
Arabs and Muslims cannot get along with anyone, not with Christians, Jews, Atheists, not even with other Muslims! They are also the most pathetic excuses as fighters. Israel is doing a needed service!
Posted by: Vicki | Jan 3, 2009 3:49:37 PM
What a bunch of empty rhetoric that is. Palestine has been used by every Arab nation in the middle east for decades. They serve one main function. They keep pressure on Israel. A constant source of friction and strife. The Arab nations don't want a solution to the Palestine problem. Jordan could open up a section of western Jordan where there are tens of thousands of Palestinians right now. But they don't want a solution. Endless strife to keep Israel beaten down. They don't even know why they hate the Jews like they do. It's supernatural in nature passed from father to son, the original reasons totally forgotten. "We will avenge you". Just enough to keep you alive and in the news and opposing Israel. There is nothing noble here.
Posted by: richard warren | Jan 3, 2009 4:14:50 PM
vicki----i feel sad for you. what a hatefull person you are. you sound just like the demonic israelies.
Posted by: T | Jan 3, 2009 4:25:01 PM
The scriptures say that the God of all creation brought destruction and desolation upon Israel for a reason: They were chosen to be a holy people, blessed for their obedience and cursed for their rebellion. They were meant to be an example to the world, and a warning as well. The rest of the story hasn't played out yet. According to the scriptures, God still has a point to make with the rest of the earth. Everyone loves the idea of a Good and loving God, but we generally aren't too thrilled with the idea of a God who is Just and Holy. A Just and Holy God will not allow the world to go on the way it is, because people are not good. Even those people who have posted here about their desire for peace are quite willing to allow one side or the other side of this conflict to be annihlated, as long as it doesn't impact their own lives. If we all got what we deserved for our own actions, thoughts, and words, not one of us would be left standing.
NKJ Jeremiah 25:31 A noise will come to the ends of the earth for the Lord has a controversy with the nations; He will plead His case with all flesh. He will give those who are wicked to the sword,' says the Lord.''
God doesn't separate men into groups of good and evil, He separates them into groups of evil that reject Him, and evil that accept Him, fear Him, and submit to Him rather than to their own evil desires.
Posted by: Michael | Jan 3, 2009 5:06:14 PM
hey T, how bout I lob some hamas rockets into your house and see how that feels? So how bout you stop being such an idiot and blame the whole thing on one side.
Both sides of the leadership are to blame. Instead of living side by side in peace for the people of palestinians and jews, they rather have their people killed so they (leadership) can maintain their post.
This whole mess should be blamed on both sides. Hamas for firing rockets and for Israel's excessive force. Everyone should stop shooting at each other and come up with some dialogue.
In the history of mankind, bullets may win the battle, but will never win the war.
Posted by: Andrew | Jan 3, 2009 6:33:18 PM
Andrew - How about I steal your land, control your food and energy, and then put fences around you. How about you stop being an idiot as you say.
Posted by: Huh | Jan 3, 2009 6:46:38 PM
andrew---- so if soemone took the land your house sat on said you can live in the house but never cross outside and so you sat in youyr house starveing with out health care or any hope why you see the people living it up on your land and now they want half your house also so they are going to forc eyou to move.....now would you fight back??? i know i woudl and taht is what palistine is doing fighting back on the evil israelies. this is really the u.s.a. and its allies after ww2 fault we took away the land teh palistinians had called home for a 1000 years and gave it to a bunch of jews and called it israel
Posted by: T | Jan 3, 2009 6:55:31 PM
hamas is a fanatic movement they kidnapped foreign aid workers for money they burnet down 2 churches they killed the owner of the bible bookshop, they hate every non moslem, do they differ from Hitler?? if they had the power of israel they would have done the same.
Posted by: nadermostafa | Jan 3, 2009 7:14:02 PM
so who to or peace in 9-11 they are not roses.
Posted by: consered | Jan 3, 2009 7:17:16 PM
cont.
hamas prevent any method of contraception in gaza just to bread to increase the number of ( fanatic moslems) kids of 15 are arranged married to 2 girles!! I have seen it with my eyes, 80 % of their income is from the donations of the european union, yet never thankful,, they smuggle weapons from egypt and killed many egyptian police officers on the border, lastly 2 days ago. they killed fattah opponents and threw them from above the houses alive, slit their throats..
Posted by: nadermostafa | Jan 3, 2009 7:21:16 PM
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